compare to a winner player (0.50$ / 1$)

    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Hi, I'm from Italy

      I play on FullTilt ( now 1$/2$ )

      however I've played 15K+ hands at 0.50$ / 1$... and I would to understand where I loose money

      Look at this:


      my general stats




      good player general stats



      my position stats




      good player position stats
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    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Is only casually or you think there are some things in my game doesn't work ? :(

      I've seen the best player at 1$/2$ in my database have stats like VPIP 28-30 / PFR 20

      Am I too much tight ? :P
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      You are probably really too tight for SH, but I have another advice for you...
      Go away from Full Tilt! :)

      Full Tilt is BAD for FL players. Go at PokerStars, Titan or maybe Party.

      Just look at these stats here and you will see for yourself:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/home/networkstats/

      And look at stats comments in this thread:
      Analyse my stats
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Ty Corey ! ;)

      But now I have on FullTilt connected to PStrategy.

      On PStars I have an old account, not connectable :(

      Well... I think in the future I can move all my money on PStars ( I have 980$ on FTilt )... but I have a rakeback also on FTilt and I've calcolated it gives to me 1BB/100 ( not bad )

      On PStars is it possible to have a winrate atleast 2BB / 100 or is difficult ?

      Level 1$/2$ on PStars is very bad ?

      There is also another question: On FullTilt I can datamining all !!!

      Is it possible on PStars ? I think no :(
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Hi danielasso and welcome to our FL section.

      You are a bit tight preflop but that is ok at this limit as the rake is pretty high and the bporderline hands will often become negative "hands" so being looser is no good idea.

      You are folding a bit too much in the BB. Increasing your defend here will also increase your VPIP. 55% should be a good value.

      You need to go to showdown more often. 33% is not enough. 36-38% should be better else you fold too foten the best hand.

      Your "good" player is not very good. ;) 28/20 is not necessary. He also defends to much in the BB.

      Never judge a player by his BB winrate if you don't have all of his hands and a very big sample size. He can very well just have had a downswing of 300BB before or after the hands you have from him (or he might get into a downswing after posting the stats etc.).

      The best to see if you are a winningplayer or not is to post hands and judge hands also. (Do this before a judge did it (or don't read the comment from him) as if you see the result you often think yourself that you would have played it the same when in real you wouldn't. This happens often and I think it happends to everyone. I myself notice this often in tests or task at the university. ;) )

      EDIT: A winrae of 2BB/100 is very unlikley on the higher limits as the pponents get tougher. However at 1/2$ it is possible.
      Mining is possible at PokerStars but not allowed. (I don't know how to mine there.)
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by ciRith
      You are folding a bit too much in the BB. Increasing your defend here will also
      increase your VPIP. 55% should be a good value.
      In fact.. I'm trying to change my style now on 1$/2$... people are very aggressive, I can defende a large range of BB

      Originally posted by ciRith
      You need to go to showdown more often. 33% is not enough. 36-38% should be better else you fold too foten the best hand.
      Sure...



      Ty for answer... but a good number of Folded BB to Steal is 55% ?
      I understand well ?
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Yep. At 5/10$+ 50% is fine as well.
      85% for the SB is good too.
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      How old account you have at stars? You can track if you opened it on September 2007 or later.

      There are many many FL tables at Stars compare to Full Tilt, therefore you can find a fish or two at tables quite easily. I'm not sure about 1/2, because I still play 0.5/1, but I don't think players are so much better at 1/2 than 0.5/1.

      Like ciRith said, datamining is possible but it's not allowed. I think opal99 can help you with that :)
      Here's his blog: Opal's scale to success

      About rakeback... Yeah, rakeback is good, but I think rake is higher at full tilt than at Stars.
      You have ~2.9BB/100 rake here.
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      How old account you have at stars? You can track if you opened it on September 2007 or later.
      I've started on PStars 21 Sept 2007 ( 1st deposit )
      Is it really possible ? track to PStartegy ?
      Many users from PStrategy Italy (me too ) have answerd to PStars support about tracking, but nothing to do X( X(

      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      There are many many FL tables at Stars compare to Full Tilt, therefore you can find a fish or two at tables quite easily. I'm not sure about 1/2, because I still play 0.5/1, but I don't think players are so much better at 1/2 than 0.5/1.
      Yes... I think players' level on FTilt is better than PStars... but 1$/2$ I think ( imo ) is the first level where most players are really aggressive and play tight... so the field is not easy, specially on FTilt... but I try :P

      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      About rakeback... Yeah, rakeback is good, but I think rake is higher at full tilt than at Stars.
      You have ~2.9BB/100 rake here.
      Ty for the info... Rake on FTilt is 5% until 3$/6$ level...
      at 5$/10$ the rake is 3% only...

      PStars ? you know exactly?

      However I think to try to make money on FTilt... is hard ... but not impossible
      My bankroll have just reach 1,000$ ... started from 50$ PStartegy promo

      TY guys
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by ciRith
      Yep. At 5/10$+ 50% is fine as well.
      85% for the SB is good too.
      Ty... I think I'll play most hands from BigBlind... more suited / not suited connectors in good pot-odds situations preflop...

      I fold too much now
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      I wrote here how can you get account tracked:
      Help linking account

      At peak, Full Tilt has ~400 Low stakes tables, PokerStars has ~1300!
      Mid stakes, Full Tilt ~200, Stars ~600.
      You know what that means, right? :)

      I have 2.4BB/100 rake at 0.5/1.
      So it's 20% lower.

      Other info:
      list of VPP´s per limit + rake per limit

      RAKE:
      1/2 FL SH =......2,40BB/100...(18k Hands)
      2/4 FL SH =......1,82BB/100...(16k Hands)
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Ty very much...

      Well.. I'll contact PStars support for tracking... and we'll see
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      About rakeback... Yeah, rakeback is good, but I think rake is higher at full tilt than at Stars.
      You have ~2.9BB/100 rake here.
      I dont understand how you calculate my rake ? :( from my stats

      Thanks... However you have to recognize that if I merge rakeback I have (2.9-1) BB / 100, it is 1.9 BB / 100 ( not bad )

      There is a question about VIP Program's PokerStars...
      You can only make VPP ? or you can have $ back from this ?
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Like ciRith said, datamining is possible but it's not allowed. I think opal99 can help you with that :)
      Here's his blog: Opal's scale to success
      Well. I can ask to Opal.
      But my question is this:

      On FTilt when I play I datamining all... my tables and other tables also.
      I make a big database archive. On FTilt we can do this because when I open tables ( only to see / obvservous mode ) the hh save by software on a temporanly files that I can scan and Import to my database. In fact also now, I'm not playing ... but I'm datamining tables ... 15-18 tables always
      Temporanly Files are saved on HandHistory main directory!

      On PStars: where is temporanly hand histories ( observous mode ) saved ?
      I'm not able to find it.

      ... reading Opal blog, I've not found nothing about it
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      From your stats I saw you had 435$ rake.
      So... 435$/15k hands * 100 / 1$ (BigBet size) = 2.9BB/100.

      No rakeback at Stars only FPPs/VPPs, yeah. But you can get cashbach from VIP store. How much "rakeback" is that you can read here, page4.
      Pokerstars $/FPP (chart inside)
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Thanks.

      So like I was thinking... you make a lot of FPPs and you buy a bonus ( is good :evil: )
      I have to decide what to do...

      I think I'll record a video for PStartegy UK ( 1$/2$ on FTilt )... so you can see how I play

      and discuss together
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      about PStars tracking ... quick mail coming back ! :(


      Hi Daniele,

      Thank you for your email.

      We are very happy to have entered into a partnership with PokerStrategy
      recently. Unfortunately the partnership does not extend to already existing
      player accounts. We are aware that you already have an account with us
      prior to the start of this partnership, therefore you cannot collect points
      with PokerStrategy.

      Please check out our VIP Club, which provides many valuable options for
      the points you may have already earned with us. Full details on the VIP
      Club can be found at http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/

      We also offer regular deposit bonuses, freerolls and other promotions
      for our existing players.

      Thank you for your understanding in this matter, if you have any further
      questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

      Kind Regards,

      Jim
      PokerStars Support Team
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Read entire thread that I gave you! :)
      You have to send e-mail again. This is not a proper department.
    • danielasso
      danielasso
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      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Read entire thread that I gave you! :)
      You have to send e-mail again. This is not a proper department.
      :P :P :P :P


      Hello Daniele,

      Thank you for your email.

      I have forwarded it to our Afiiliates Team who are responsible for handling
      this matter. They will get back to you as soon as possible.

      Thank you for your patience, and for choosing PokerStars.

      Kind Regards,

      Jim
      PokerStars Support Team
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by danielasso
      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Like ciRith said, datamining is possible but it's not allowed. I think opal99 can help you with that :)
      Here's his blog: Opal's scale to success
      Well. I can ask to Opal.
      But my question is this:

      On FTilt when I play I datamining all... my tables and other tables also.
      I make a big database archive. On FTilt we can do this because when I open tables ( only to see / obvservous mode ) the hh save by software on a temporanly files that I can scan and Import to my database. In fact also now, I'm not playing ... but I'm datamining tables ... 15-18 tables always
      Temporanly Files are saved on HandHistory main directory!

      On PStars: where is temporanly hand histories ( observous mode ) saved ?
      I'm not able to find it.

      ... reading Opal blog, I've not found nothing about it
      hmm.. it's not saved to your HDD, but can easily be read & saved by 3rd-party software (some kind of AHK script)

      This software was made by one of PS.de players and can be downloaded here - on the 1st page is link to 0.4a version but look for 0.4h (the latest one) on 24th page.

      I use 5 virtual machines to make sure this datamining is not connected to my Stars account.. I'll get separate internet connection when I get to higher lvl, juts make sure :)
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