[NL2-NL10] Termi8r's session review hands (Xarry2)

    • Termi8r
      Termi8r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2008 Posts: 408
      This post is for a review Xarry2 is going to make using the hand replayer. I posted it here for you guys and him to see the stats as it is not included in the hand replayer.

      I have KK and the A comes on the flop against a loose opponent. How should I play this?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $55.65
      Hero:
      $4.30
      UTG+2:
      $24.05
      MP1:
      $30.50
      MP2:
      $37.30
      MP3:
      $22.25
      CO:
      $25.15
      BU:
      $22.95

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:club: , K:diamond:
      3 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.25, MP3 folds, SB calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($2.75) 9:club: , A:diamond: , 2:heart: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25.

      Turn: ($5.25) 5:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.80 (All-In), SB calls $1.80.

      River: ($8.85) 4:spade:


      Final Pot: $8.85

















      I get AK and on the flop I don’t get any help. How should I play the turn against a loose opponent?
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $20.55
      BB:
      $21.50
      MP1:
      $5.00
      MP2:
      $24.50
      MP3:
      $25.20
      Hero:
      $5.50
      BU:
      $25.35

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:diamond: , K:diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($2.10) 9:club: , T:diamond: , 7:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($6.10) 2:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.50 (All-In), BB calls $2.50.

      River: ($11.10) Q:heart:


      Final Pot: $11.10



















      I have QQ and there is an over card on the flop…
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $23.50
      Hero:
      $5.55
      MP1:
      $26.95
      MP2:
      $21.85
      MP3:
      $13.35
      CO:
      $4.65
      BU:
      $21.75

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, BU calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.25, MP1 calls $1.00, BU folds.

      Flop: ($2.85) K:diamond: , T:club: , 4:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($5.85) 4:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $3.00, Hero raises to $2.80 (All-In), MP1 gets uncalled bet back..

      River: ($11.45) A:spade:


      Final Pot: $11.45
      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, queens and fours (Qh Qc)
      MP1 shows a straight, ace high (Qs Jh)

      MP1 wins with a straight, ace high (Qs Jh)














      How should I play when I’m reraised? When is it ok to push?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $29.80
      BB:
      $24.75
      UTG+2:
      $39.75
      MP1:
      $14.40
      MP2:
      $34.10
      Hero:
      $5.00
      CO:
      $4.60
      BU:
      $27.20

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:diamond: , Q:heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds.

      Flop: ($2.25) 9:club: , K:club: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $4.00 (All-In), SB calls $0.50.

      Turn: ($10.25) 8:diamond:
      River: ($10.25) 7:spade:


      Final Pot: $10.25

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, queens and nines (Qd Qh)
      SB shows two pairs, kings and nines (Kh Jh)

      SB wins with two pairs, kings and nines (Kh Jh)













      A loose button calls preflop and have loose stats, how should I play the turn?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $11.25
      BB:
      $28.10
      UTG+2:
      $3.95
      MP1:
      $19.00
      MP2:
      $15.65
      MP3:
      $4.65
      Hero:
      $4.65
      BU:
      $31.45

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with T:heart: , T:spade:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BU calls $1.00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($2.35) J:spade: , K:spade: , 2:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, BU calls $1.25.

      Turn: ($4.85) 5:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $2.00, Hero raises to $2.40 (All-In), BU calls $0.40.

      River: ($9.65) 8:club:


      Final Pot: $9.65

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of tens (Th Ts)
      BU shows two pairs, kings and jacks (Jc Kh)

      BU wins with two pairs, kings and jacks (Jc Kh)












      Was the call of the small bet on the river ok?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $21.45
      Hero:
      $5.60
      MP1:
      $8.00
      MP2:
      $17.05
      MP3:
      $19.10
      CO:
      $4.30
      BU:
      $14.30

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:heart: , T:spade:
      4 folds, BU calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.00, BU calls $0.75, SB folds.

      Flop: ($2.25) 7:spade: , Q:diamond: , A:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.25, BU calls $1.25.

      Turn: ($4.75) K:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      River: ($4.75) 2:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75.

      Final Pot: $6.25

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of tens (Th Ts)
      BU shows a pair of aces (Ac 4c)

      BU wins with a pair of aces (Ac 4c)













      How should I play the turn? When can I shove?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $46.45
      BB:
      $25.60
      UTG+1:
      $20.65
      UTG+2:
      $25.60
      MP1:
      $4.35
      MP2:
      $17.90
      MP3:
      $23.15
      CO:
      $7.65
      Hero:
      $4.65

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:spade: , A:club:
      5 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($2.85) 6:heart: , 9:spade: , 6:diamond: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($5.85) 8:spade: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($5.85) 5:diamond: (2 players)
      CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $1.90 (All-In), CO calls $0.40.

      Final Pot: $9.65

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of sixes (Qs Ac)
      CO shows a straight, nine high (7d Ad)

      CO wins with a straight, nine high (7d Ad)












      Have a low pair and the flop brings two K’s should I push against this loose opponent?
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $22.40
      BB:
      $73.30
      MP1:
      $26.75
      Hero:
      $4.00
      MP3:
      $21.15
      CO:
      $23.95
      BU:
      $28.40

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9:heart: , 9:diamond:
      MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BU calls $1.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($4.10) 8:spade: , K:diamond: , K:club: (3 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $2.75 (All-In), BU folds, MP1 calls $2.75.

      Turn: ($9.60) 3:spade:
      River: ($9.60) 6:heart:


      Final Pot: $9.60

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and nines (9h 9d)
      MP1 shows three of a kind, kings (Kh Jh)

      MP1 wins with three of a kind, kings (Kh Jh)













      The ace shows up again…should I have pushed?

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $4.05
      BB:
      $18.65
      UTG+2:
      $15.00
      MP1:
      $15.25
      MP2:
      $7.85
      MP3:
      $5.85
      CO:
      $16.25
      BU:
      $5.30

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8:club: , 8:heart:
      2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO folds, BU calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, BB folds, MP2 calls $1.25, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) 6:spade: , 6:club: , A:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.55 (All-In), MP2 calls $2.55.

      Turn: ($8.85) A:spade:
      River: ($8.85) 2:spade:


      Final Pot: $8.85

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and eights (8c 8h)
      MP2 shows a full-house, aces full of sixes (Ah Jc)

      MP2 wins with a full-house, aces full of sixes (Ah Jc)












      Low pair again with only one over card…I know I should have bet with the gutshot as well.

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $24.75
      BB:
      $34.95
      UTG+1:
      $58.55
      UTG+2:
      $14.50
      MP1:
      $26.90
      MP2:
      $38.15
      Hero:
      $4.30
      CO:
      $41.60
      BU:
      $6.75

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7:heart: , 7:diamond:
      UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($2.85) 5:club: , 8:spade: , 4:heart: (2 players)
      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($2.85) 3:heart: (2 players)
      UTG+1 bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

      River: ($3.35) K:club: (2 players)
      UTG+1 bets $3.75, Hero folds, UTG+1 gets uncalled bet back..

      Final Pot: $3.35

      So my main questions is regarding pocket pairs with over cards against a loose opponent, and playing the turn with A-high agaisnt one loose opponent. When is it ok to shove on the turn if ever? I made some mistakes with the hands above I know ;)
  • 1 reply
    • xarry2
      xarry2
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 834
      I have QQ and there is an over card on the flop…
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $23.50
      Hero:
      $5.55
      MP1:
      $26.95
      MP2:
      $21.85
      MP3:
      $13.35
      CO:
      $4.65
      BU:
      $21.75

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, BU calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.25, MP1 calls $1.00, BU folds.

      Flop: ($2.85) K:diamond: , T:club: , 4:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($5.85) 4:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $3.00, Hero raises to $2.80 (All-In), MP1 gets uncalled bet back..

      River: ($11.45) A:spade:

      Final Pot: $11.45


      Hi,

      I just made the hand review session but didn't include this hand - the vid was already too long :(
      thats why i'll answer it here.

      well, first you should stick to the 4BB+1BB per limper rule. your raise is one BB to small. especially OOP you should stick to this since its usually not a good idea to give your opponents decent odds, even with QQ.
      MP1 seems to be loose and passive. thats why he can really have a big range on the flop. from all sorts of PPs, suited connectors/gappers, offsuited connectors/gappers, suited Aces/Kings/Queens/Jacks ...
      we should definetely cbet the flop. your cbet size is okay but u should bet like 1.75$ - about 2/3 potsize. we get called and you asked if its possible to continue the hand. imo we should give up, even though we face a looser opponent. key point is that this board allows an OESD and some gutshots but not more draws. this means we're playing more often against made hands than draws. i.e. against Kx/Tx/4x, maybe some medium PPs (77-99), QJ and maybe some gutshot draws like Q9/J9 or AT. that the turn pairs the 4 isn't decent also. now we only beat the draws and a Tx hand (and the PPs).

      so, these are my general thoughts about the hand, lets however calculate how often we need to be in front in order to make profit.

      i assume that we have no FE (which isn't very unrealistic since our stack is just 1/2 potsize big) and thus the pot odds on the turn directly determine our break even equity:

      (5.85$+2.8$)/2.8$ = 3.1:1 which equals at least 25% breakeven equity

      well, i think i have to reconsider my answer. 25% is really not much, given the fact that there are still some worse (draws/Tx) hands calling our all-in i think the 2nd barrel (push) is profitable - as long as we really face a loose opponent who's range does include many hands. and best, who's flopcalling range is also loose because then the portion of worse hands in his range than ours on the turn will be bigger. just imagine he then will also have some really weak hands on the turn like A9s or 55 (which he will maybe also call)
      (just take a look at the hand with the equilator, add some possible hands to his range and compare the equities, you will see that we quickly have more than 25% equity if he calls our push with Tx or some draws, too. i think he will call all of them and even if he folds we get a big pot :)


      let me sum up this:

      - in this hand the 2nd barrel is profitable as long as the opponent is loose enough!
      - there has to be a decent portion of worse hands than ours in his range
      - the more drawy the board is the more often a made hand like this one will still be good

      But really be careful with such a play. the profitable spots for a 2nd brl are quite rare! especially on lower limits (as I'll explain in the session review)
      A board like KJ3 two suited and we have TT. what would you do? even though the board is much more drawy i usually don't like a 2nd barrel because there aren many worse made hands possible! exchange our hand to QQ and its an easy push on the turn against a loose opponent. but be aware that these plays are very swingy. don't start turning all your unimproved cbets into a 2nd br bluffpush. thats -EV! you really need a made hand which beats enough hands in your opponents range.

      I hope I helped you a bit. Nevertheless you can only learn to figure out the rigth spots by practicing. Use the Equilator and simulate different scenarios. Vary your holdings, the board, the stacksizes, the opponents range in order to find out more. Imo its usually best to start with a worst case scenario and slightly changing parameters to the better end until you reach the breakeven equity. This really gives you a feeling for those spots.

      and btw, if you can't let go of your hand on the turn anyway, never play c/c!!!! or c/r AI with no FE. thats even worse than a wrong placed 2nd brl since you don't create foldequity and give up initiative letting your opponent take control of the hand. in addition he will usually check behind with the weak/drawing hands and just bet those who beat you. don't give him this chance!