[NL2-NL10] AQo4

    • pantasrb
      pantasrb
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.12.2012 Posts: 700
      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 108.6 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      Hero (SB): 107 BB
      BB: 240.1 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
      MP: 122.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
      CO: 105.9 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 38.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: Q:diamond:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

      Flop: (49 BB, 2 players) A:diamond: 8:club: 6:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB

      Turn: (101 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero checks, CO bets 55.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 55.9 BB

      River: (212.8 BB, 2 players) T:spade:

      Is preflop loose? On flop I hit A I think that people usually don't play aggressive with PP so here only thing that beats me is one combination of AA
      and 8 combos of AK, but 6 combos of KK,one combo of QQ, 6cobmobos of JJ and 8 of AJ could bluff. I think that on the turn is close fold but he can overplay some KK or one combination of draw so I call.
  • 2 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      Hi.

      If you call the 4bet preflop and hit TPTK, you should never fold here. Calling here to fold Turn is just bad.

      Question is how you should have proceeded vs the 4bet. I think his 4-bet size is pretty large so I don't like calling here. Often you may see people call 4bets at higher limits but that's because they are either >100bb deep, or they use small bet sizes and raise sizes.

      For example, this is what usually happens in a mid/high stakes late position battle
      BU opens to 2BB
      SB 3bets to 7BB
      BU 4bets to 16BB
      SB needs to risk 93bb more to win 16bb+7bb in the pot. That gives poor risk/reward. On the other hand, in order to see a flop, he only needs to call 9BB more.

      Compare this with your situation.
      CO opens to 3BB
      SB 3bets to 10BB
      CO 4bets to 24BB
      SB needs to risk 90bb more to win 10bb+24bb in the pot. Certainly much better to shove. If you call, you must call 14BB more which is significantly more expensive.
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      Let me further elaborate on this...

      So you either need to 5bet or fold. 5betting means that you think he's 4-bet bluffing enough of the time here (you expect him to 4bet to 24bb and fold to a 5bet sometimes). This is great because if our shove gets called, we are usually an underdog so our profit mostly comes from the times villain 4bets and folds here.

      AQ vs TT+/AQ+
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 35.25% 25.09% 10.16% { AQs, AQo }
      MP3 64.75% 54.58% 10.16% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

      If you don't think he's 4-betting light, then you have an easy 3bet/fold. We 3bet cos we think he calls with enough worse hands but when he 4bets we fold cos we are crushed vs such a range.

      Your reads aren't too solid here with only 18 hands so I'm not really sure whether you should shove or fold. Probably fold if you think NL10 games are on the passive side.