[NL20-NL50] nl20 sh QJs

    • DrDunne
      DrDunne
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2010 Posts: 3,378
      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BB: $8.21 (41.1 bb)
      UTG: $23.60 (118 bb)
      MP: $22.31 (111.5 bb)
      CO: $20 (100 bb)
      BTN: $26.39 (132 bb)
      Hero (SB): $28 (140 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, BB folds, BTN calls $1.00

      Flop: ($3) 7 3 A (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80

      Turn: ($6.60) 3 (2 players)
      Hero???

      villain is a complete unknown

      on the flop i cbet because it's dry, it's A high and i dont think he should float me too light on this board.

      once he calls i think his range is now like Ax, QQ/JJ/TT that i'm not sure are folding and whatever else. so the 3 doesnt really give me any FE even tho it improves my pot equity. what do you think my line should be? can i really make him fold anything on the turn with a barrel?

      I think barrelling the turn and shipping the river as played could have been a better idea. His call on the flop is most likely Ax like AK, AQ, AJ, AT and I doubt he’ll fold these. Fullhouses are so unlikely and for him to have a better BDF he would have to have AhKh or AhTh since no other hearts would really call this flop cbet. So I think bet bet bet would have been better.

      if i do barrel what happens when i miss on the river?
  • 3 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi Lewis,

      You can't bet the turn and not bet the river as you really don't have much FE.

      So really we either bet and bet or ck/raise turn (or just play it passive).
    • DrDunne
      DrDunne
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2010 Posts: 3,378
      what do you think about playing passively on the turn? if you check will you just play for pot odds?

      i can't seem to find the hand itself, but i had another decision in this hand. i checked and he checked back (im thinking he has SDV like JJ,TT, 99, 88 maybe even QQ - also some weaker Ax like AJ and AT). river was something like 9:heart: , so i bet ~$4.70 (if i didn't have much FE on the turn then i shouldnt have too much more on this river, so i guess he can call a >half psb)

      when i bet the river, he raised to ~$10. i really got confused... what do you think about it? at the time i honestly didnt think much, i just sigh-called.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by DrDunne
      what do you think about playing passively on the turn? if you check will you just play for pot odds?

      i can't seem to find the hand itself, but i had another decision in this hand. i checked and he checked back (im thinking he has SDV like JJ,TT, 99, 88 maybe even QQ - also some weaker Ax like AJ and AT). river was something like 9:heart: , so i bet ~$4.70 (if i didn't have much FE on the turn then i shouldnt have too much more on this river, so i guess he can call a >half psb)

      when i bet the river, he raised to ~$10. i really got confused... what do you think about it? at the time i honestly didnt think much, i just sigh-called.
      This scenario is interesting because it's a 3-bet pot where we are slightly deeper. Can we get him to fold Ax with a 3-barrel (AI)? That's the big question here. And given the board I think he has enough 2nd pair that a second barrel is worth and may fold those weaker hands.

      As far as the river Q goes I think that he may also have a flush as played as I can't see what else he can have other than some pair turned into a bluff or a monster slowplayed.