[NL20-NL50] When I called MP3 were the odds correct

    • Craigsy633
      Craigsy633
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2013 Posts: 53
      When I entered the pot I was pretty happy with my raise. I missed the flop but had a nut flush draw. But the raise by MP3 made me fear he had a queen.

      The call by the BB made the size of the pot worth me calling - I think?

      Could someone please comment on whether I was mathematically correct to call this? I know I won the hand but I am more interested on whether it was the correct play?

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    • Saren113
      Saren113
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      Joined: 06.03.2009 Posts: 2,973
      The problem with calling in a spot like this is that your implied outs (Your chance off getting payed when hitting your draw)

      Usually a check raise on those limits = 2p or better in like 95% of the time.

      Personally I would just fold to the check raise as it's super strong to make it in a multiway pot. I am to lazy to make the math now.

      A question for you tho! Would you still stack off with your set when the fourth flush card comes down?
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      Hi.

      Your are calling 16 more to win 79. Pot odds = 16/79 = 20%. So definitely more than enough to justify calling here, even when hitting your draw is going to be obvious.

      The question though, is why didn't you raise preflop? This is a pretty easy raise to 20-24 cents before the flop.

      Thanks.
    • Craigsy633
      Craigsy633
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      Joined: 17.04.2013 Posts: 53
      Many thanks for your answer, it was exactly what I was looking for.

      Your question about my raise pre-flop. I did raise pre-flop by 2BB, 0.04 cent in total simply because I was first to act and figured AJ wasn't super strong.

      20-24 cents would have been 10-12xBB - Is that the kind of raises I should be making on these low limit tables from early position with AJ? I am sure it would do the job of knocking out the drawing hands but would it kill all action?

      Thanks again
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      ah ok I thought u were in BB and I thought this was 2/4. My bad - Wanted you to make an iso-raise of 6BB :)

      Just raise it up to 3-4BB. By making it so small, you are encouraging multiway action, with 5 players left to act behind you. I don't like it because it's just much harder to win in a multiway pot, unless you have a hand that's trying to hit a big hand on the flop (like a set). Since this is 1/2cents and this is probably the limit where everyone is ultra-loose, 8 cents is my preferred raise size.

      It's always good to raise to a size where you expect to get 1-2 callers at the very most.
    • Craigsy633
      Craigsy633
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      Joined: 17.04.2013 Posts: 53
      Thanks for your guidance - still at the very start of the learning curve
      :P