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[NL20-NL50] [Fr] Nl25 Jj 26.07

    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,751
      Full Tilt - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: $17.50 (VPIP: 52.94, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
      Hero (MP+1): $58.41
      CO: $16.31 (VPIP: 19.22, PFR: 10.78, 3Bet Preflop: 2.40, Hands: 779)
      BTN: $29.29 (VPIP: 14.23, PFR: 11.10, 3Bet Preflop: 4.91, Hands: 4,047)
      SB: $28.93 (VPIP: 15.92, PFR: 11.82, 3Bet Preflop: 4.07, Hands: 8,173)
      BB: $12.36 (VPIP: 39.60, PFR: 6.94, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 355)
      UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 13.20, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 3.87, Hands: 5,126)
      UTG+1: $27.45 (VPIP: 11.42, PFR: 8.79, 3Bet Preflop: 3.47, Hands: 14,716)

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25, MP posts DB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.60) Hero has J:heart: J:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.00, fold, Hero calls $1.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($2.60, 2 players) A:spade: 2:club: 5:spade:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.60, 2 players) 7:heart:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

      River: ($5.60, 2 players) 9:heart:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

      reg




      Preflop and flop looks ok for me.
      Turn: when I see something like his range is capped. He holds KK or QQ and decides to check/call because he doesn't see value from betting and AK or AQ which pot control. I don't thinks so sets would check/call flop. Probably x/r it.
      Do you think that we are able to fold AK or AQ which pot control with betting turn and jaming riv?
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Hi UnknownJoseph,

      Preflop: looks fine with fish in BB

      Postflop: You have a super nit that opened and checked the flop. Do we really see value in betting?

      He rarely has any draws (at best KQss) and QQ/KK are not folding. I doubt many worse pairs call you.

      So I'd simply check it and take my free card.
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,751
      of course we don't have value there but many times when I didn't bet (in 3bet pot) when I didn't see value you didn't want to give free card.
      When we check we give up this flop. By betting we can build bigger pot and steal the pot later. by checking we can't represent good hand so...
      when villain plays x/c on the flop I expect that he holds bell range. Probably not AA, 22, 55 because he would x/r. maybe KK, QQ or AK, AQ.
      so when nitty player plays x/c he doesn't want to build big pot so he pot control. So why not to punished him for it? why not to try to steal the pot and force him bell range to fold?
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,751
      doubled post
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,751
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    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by UnknownJoseph
      of course we don't have value there but many times when I didn't bet (in 3bet pot) when I didn't see value you didn't want to give free card.
      When we check we give up this flop. By betting we can build bigger pot and steal the pot later. by checking we can't represent good hand so...
      when villain plays x/c on the flop I expect that he holds bell range. Probably not AA, 22, 55 because he would x/r. maybe KK, QQ or AK, AQ.
      so when nitty player plays x/c he doesn't want to build big pot so he pot control. So why not to punished him for it? why not to try to steal the pot and force him bell range to fold?

      I see what you mean,

      You are afraid of giving free cards. But what cards are we giving free cards? He rarely has anything that has more than a few outs versus us (if we are ahead).

      This guy is not your average nit imo, it's more of a super nit (just 11/9) and these type of guys that these lines with AQ/AK way too often and don't like folding (since they play few hands).

      Generally I don't try to run big bluffs on these guys as they are expensive and rarely work.


      Of course if you think he only has second pair just 3-barrel him but I think that's spewy at this point.