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[NL2-NL10] Nl5 At 28073

    • MarliesB
      MarliesB
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.04.2013 Posts: 685
      Hello,

      What should I have done here? I got no reads.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 68.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      CO: 79 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      BTN: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
      SB: 68 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 80.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 6)
      Hero (BB): 108.8 BB
      UTG: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T:club: A:spade:

      UTG raises to 2 BB, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, UTG calls 1 BB

      Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) K:heart: J:spade: A:heart:
      Hero bets 6 BB, fold, MP raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

      Turn: (33.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      Hero checks, MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

      River: (59.4 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero checks, MP bets 21 BB, fold

      MP wins 57 BB
  • 8 replies
    • SherlockHolmes2ez
      SherlockHolmes2ez
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2012 Posts: 334
      Originally posted by MarliesB
      Hello,

      What should I have done here? I got no reads.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 68.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      CO: 79 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      BTN: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
      SB: 68 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 80.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 6)
      Hero (BB): 108.8 BB
      UTG: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T:club: A:spade:

      UTG raises to 2 BB, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, UTG calls 1 BB

      Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) K:heart: J:spade: A:heart:
      Hero bets 6 BB, fold, MP raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

      Turn: (33.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      Hero checks, MP bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

      River: (59.4 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero checks, MP bets 21 BB, fold

      MP wins 57 BB
      Why do you call bet on the turn, if you're gonna fold river? Your hand doesn't have much chances to improve on the river so, either call turn call river, or fold on the turn, think ahead.
    • MarliesB
      MarliesB
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      Joined: 13.04.2013 Posts: 685
      I always think it's possible that he best with Kx or Jx on the turn, but on the river only with better hands
    • SherlockHolmes2ez
      SherlockHolmes2ez
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2012 Posts: 334
      Originally posted by MarliesB
      I always think it's possible that he best with Kx or Jx on the turn, but on the river only with better hands
      He did min raise you on the flop, the best you can hope is if he's got KQ, but if he had KQ he would never bet the turn.
    • dublinmatt
      dublinmatt
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      Joined: 11.02.2013 Posts: 138
      Min raise pre-flop puts him on a wide range. You have top pair with a decent kicker, plus a gutshot, so would even consider re-raising him on the flop, but definitely bet the turn (or, as played, re-raising him here). A check-call leaves the door open for him on the river.
    • SherlockHolmes2ez
      SherlockHolmes2ez
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2012 Posts: 334
      Originally posted by dublinmatt
      Min raise pre-flop puts him on a wide range. You have top pair with a decent kicker, plus a gutshot, so would even consider re-raising him on the flop, but definitely bet the turn (or, as played, re-raising him here). A check-call leaves the door open for him on the river.
      I think your play is way wrong, but I won't argue here and wait for coach's view for this hand.
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,332
      Hey MarliesB,

      This is not a mandatory defend preflop. Vs one opponent it should be a fold very often. Vs 2 guys you do get slightly better odds to call, but ATo does not play that well multiway anyway.

      I think flop-donk is totally fine on this texture. However you are looking to get calls, not raises. Vs MPs raise wouldn't be too bad to fold directly on the flop. Your hand is really not that strong in this specific situation.

      At the very least you should be folding by the turn imo, it's just very unlikely you have the best hand after MP's flop raise.
    • MarliesB
      MarliesB
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      Joined: 13.04.2013 Posts: 685
      Weazel,

      as said before, do I have to call the river if I call the turn?
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 03.08.2009 Posts: 13,332
      Originally posted by MarliesB
      Weazel,

      as said before, do I have to call the river if I call the turn?
      Speaking really generally no.

      You might be playing against someone who bluffs the turn a lot but never bluffs the river. Against such an opponent of course it would be a good option to call turn but fold river.