[NL2-NL10] NL50 KQ 3BB BU raise

    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      I decided that i was going to start raising with 3BB from the BU from now on, but I'm thinking that maybe i should wait till I'm playing NL100 before doing this? My reasons;
      1) My good hands will have so much less FE on the flop.
      2) I feel like a 3BB raise looks much weaker so opponents will reraise me more PF with hands i would like to go to the flop with but then won't get the odds to call said reraise with.

      Anyway, about the hand, i think on the turn i had to push with the flushdraw and again, i counted my K and Q as outs also. I am thinking that if i get called and don't improve i will almost certainly lose the hand, but that goes without saying.

      What do you think, i really don't like the idea of C/C in this situation for some reason.

      Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
      LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

      UTG: $51.52
      UTG+1: $59.37
      UTG+2: $8.75
      MP1: $38.50
      MP2: $50.18
      CO: $49
      Hero (BTN): $11
      SB: $9.50
      BB: $60.31

      Pre-Flop: Q:heart: K:spade: dealt to Hero (BTN)
      6 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

      Flop: ($3.25) J:spade: 6:club: 3:spade: (2 Players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

      Turn: ($7.25) 2:spade: (2 Players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.50 and is All-In, BB calls $7.50

      River: ($22.25) T:heart: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

      Results: $22.25 Pot ($1.11 Rake)
      Hero mucked Q:heart: K:spade: (high card King) and LOST (-$11 NET)
      BB showed A:spade: 6:heart: (a pair of Sixes) and WON $21.14 (+$10.14 NET)
  • 9 replies
    • JonatanW
      JonatanW
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      I think you can use 3bb raises from BU at NL50 as well. Any hands from SHC that you raise with 3bb (except maybe KQ) and end up getting re-raise from SB or BB is a clear push in my book, your ATS is probably 25-30% and thus your opponent will more often than not put you on a steal hand and then your AQ, AJ or 77-TT is in great shape HU. Villain often resteal with low pockets or Axs even suited face cards. Also 3bb is good because it increases the chances that they will call pre-flop because its not that easy to get paid when raising your monsters from BU first-in.

      C/C should never be done as SSS, C-bet is fine, you can't push to protect because you got to deep a stack. I wouldn't want to C-bet bigger anyway because if he calls you lose more money. Turn doesn't help you, if he was drawing which it looks like on his flop-play he would have made a hand and is possibly trying to trap you. I would have checked behind on turn and c/f on river to get away from this one as cheap as possible.
    • 098799
      098799
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      Joined: 23.07.2007 Posts: 1,245
      Raising with 3bb from bu and 3.5 from co is essentially meant to save you money with stealing situations - so you need to learn how to steal if you're planning on this change.

      Hand was played well, bad thing you were drawing dead with your flush draw.

      Oh and btw. Novak Djokovic is loosing so badly in semi-finals of us open. I'm so damn sad.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
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      Originally posted by 098799

      Oh and btw. Novak Djokovic is loosing so badly in semi-finals of us open. I'm so damn sad.
      that guy seems like a pretty good player, i saw him on TV a while ago
    • 098799
      098799
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      Well yes, he is good, seeded 3rd, but was facing Roger Federer...
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
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      I guess he just got coolered then.
    • delete461
      delete461
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      Novak is an awesome player, IMO he deserves to be considered one of the greats of tennis - unfortunately for him he is competing at the same time as two of the best ever
    • 098799
      098799
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      He's still young, 21 if I'm not mistaken, so 6 years younger than Slicer and still one year younger than Rafa. He is easily making it into top2 within some time as Roger will start to back down but there are also few even younger guns behind him. For sure Murray, who yeasterday proved his power in two first sets against Rafa and few others, namley Del Potro, Nishikori, Cilic...
    • alejandrosh
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      he is very young, plays great at every tipe of court. he went down in the rank for his loss in wimbledon this year. i guess next year by this time he'll be either #1 or #2 behind roger.
    • 098799
      098799
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      How come you say he'll be #2 after Roger? ATM Rafa's the king and no. 1 and there is no reason to assume he'll do worse next year.