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[NL20-NL50] NL50 JJ OOP vs short stack 2nd pair

    • AchillesBG
      AchillesBG
      Gold
      Joined: 06.02.2011 Posts: 4,586
      Microgaming - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: €26.07 (VPIP: 47.62, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 23)
      BTN: €34.23 (VPIP: 23.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 67) 31% agg.freq., fold to Cbet 75%(4)
      Hero (SB): €52.84
      BB: €76.43 (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 188)
      UTG: €46.52 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      MP: €55.88 (VPIP: 22.38, PFR: 17.80, 3Bet Preflop: 7.87, Hands: 799)

      Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has J:spade: J:heart:

      fold, fold, CO calls €0.50, BTN calls €0.50, Hero raises to €3.00, fold, fold, BTN calls €2.50

      Flop: (€7.00, 2 players) 9:heart: T:heart: Q:spade:
      Hero bets €4.00, BTN calls €4.00

      Turn: (€15.00, 2 players) 5:club:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: (€15.00, 2 players) Q:club:
      Hero bets €6.00, BTN calls €6.00


      Now should i play the turn? Perhaps bet/fold is best?

      As palyed, i think i have a value bet on the river. Maybe i should go for a 1/2 pot?
  • 3 replies
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,751
      because of high FtCB I would change my line...
      I don't see value bet here. I would play check/call flop and check/call turn on blank turn and finally give up on further aggression on the riv
      after villain's check on the flop I would value bettin twice.

      This is what i've learned and I'm interested in if I'm right :)
    • AchillesBG
      AchillesBG
      Gold
      Joined: 06.02.2011 Posts: 4,586
      My sample for fold to Cbet was only 3 situation (100%), before this hand. He might not float a lot, but i think that he will call the flop with Tx/draws, and probably some 9x. I don`t want to start by check/calling twice, because i assume that he is passive and won`t bluff a lot.

      After calling the flop, he should have a lot of Qx/Tx/9x/draws. I wasn`t sure if i could bet for value, so the plan was to call a small bet and give up on the river.
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Hey A,

      It's actually a pretty good spot to check even if he won't bluff a lot IP. You don't miss value from Tx type hands because they either bet themselves to protect or bluffatch later. You only need him to stab a small part of his range on a board where a check from you is percevied super weak.

      Furthermore, your value after he calls the first bet becomes quite thin since now his range is more than reasonable against JJ. Cbet is +EV but I prefer checking JJ here, I think it has higher EV.

      As played, I think you can bet 12 on the river. He doesn't have Qx because hebets it on the turn. He folds to cbets so on the river he usually has 9x or Tx which have the same value regardless of how much you bet and calls. Maybe 88 folds a bit more often if you bet so big but you more than make up for it from Tx and 9x. Keep in mind you also don't represent Qx or overpair after checking the turn. If he thinks even subconciously about that, you have many benefits for the bigger sizing.