PLO25 and below unbeatable?

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    • Skodljivec
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      Before the lowered rake :f_cool:

    • Boomer2k10
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      So that's a no then? :)

      PS. 20 Buyins above Ev is nice :)
    • Skodljivec
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      Originally posted by Boomer2k10
      So that's a no then? :)

      PS. 20 Buyins above Ev is nice :)
      True :D . But it's still around 10bb/100 in EV, and my knowledge wasn't nearly what it is today... So to the doubters:

      Yes, you can beat micro plo if you put the time and effort.

      Regards,

      Skodljivec
    • Kyyberi
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      Beatable, but even most regs find it hard to beat the rake.
    • Boomer2k10
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      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      Beatable, but even most regs find it hard to beat the rake.
      But DEM VPPS!!
    • Skodljivec
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      Originally posted by Kyyberi
      Beatable, but even most regs find it hard to beat the rake.
      From my experience plo25 is still incredibly fishy. I mean i played there 3 times last week, twice while making a vid and once during coaching, and even without table selecting i had 2 fish at every table for the most part.

      Like i said, if you have a solid game, i think it can be beat easily. The problem is that the "regs" are actually still fishy, so that's why they can't beat the rake.

      Regards,

      Skodljivec
    • Toothless32
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      playing tight preflop to reduce rake is also very important imo....
    • Skodljivec
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      Originally posted by Toothless32
      playing tight preflop to reduce rake is also very important imo....
      I'm not proud of this, but my PLO25 stats were like 30/20/6 :D

      I completly agree with you tough. Tight is right at these stakes, and i'm 100% that my winrate would be even bigger if i were playing like 27/19/6 insted of the numbers i had.

      Regards,

      Skodljivec
    • bmfbpi
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      Originally posted by Skodljivec

      Yes, you can beat micro plo if you put the time and effort.

      I'm a believer in these words, will open a blog here or on wordpress for exactly this, starting from PLO5
    • tommygecko
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      I've been trying out plo5 zoom and plo10 zoom. The amount of fishes make these limits beatable imo. Their preflop hand selection is absolutely terrible and you will often cooler/crush their ranges if you hand select well.
    • amater0001
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      What about PLO H/L?
      Ive played just a few hundred games PLOHL2 and 5 and find it incredibly easy to beat. People overplay low hand and get quartered frequently
    • JonikoP
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      Starting with a bankroll of $10, I've worked my way up through PLO2, PLO5 and PLO10 on Stars. Now playing PLO25 with a bankroll of $1000.
    • Kreatief
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      Thats risky. I tried that once. Didnt work out too well ;)
      Be prepared to move down fast.

      I for myself can say that both, regular tables and zoom are beatable below PLO25, and I am far away from being very good. But it takes alot of effort to get there and alot of discipline while playing.
    • Walshnm
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      Totally possible - but you need serious volume and you have very very small margin for error long term. One or two loose/ gamble decisions and all of that small edge is gone

      Good luck!