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[NL2-NL10] nl10 QQ,.,.

    • georgee92
      georgee92
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.04.2013 Posts: 616
      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 128.1 BB (VPIP: 12.38, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 105)
      BB: 108.4 BB (VPIP: 11.50, PFR: 7.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 115)
      UTG: 315.3 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 14.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 178)
      Hero (MP): 111.5 BB
      CO: 333.5 BB (VPIP: 22.56, PFR: 20.10, 3Bet Preflop: 12.10, Hands: 840)
      BTN: 46.4 BB (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 5.13, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 167)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) T:spade: K:heart: 2:diamond:
      Hero bets 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB

      Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:
      Hero bets 7 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

      River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 16 BB, fold

      BTN wins 27.2 BB


      he is a fish ,is there a value here flop and turn ??
  • 3 replies
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Hiya,

      Sure, there is value in betting flop and turn but I think there's more value/EV in checking.

      If you do decide to bet, I think you should bet bigger sizings. On the flop you get called by many Ax high and gutters, Tx, probably even lower pairs. On the turn, some hands pick up flushdraws, Tx still doesn't fold, A highs still have a gutter, etc.
    • MarliesB
      MarliesB
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.04.2013 Posts: 685
      Hi Emanual,

      like you say it, isn't that exactly what we want? We need those weaker hands to stay in the hand because we need to balance it out with the times that villain has a king. (In the case that we're betting)
    • EmanuelC16
      EmanuelC16
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2010 Posts: 13,909
      Balance is irrelevant here since we know (should anyway since it's usually easy to figure out) how he plays his range. When we know that we maximize the value we get.

      Most importantly, balance means how our range is structured and how it works with our bet sizes with regards to value/bluff ratio, it has nothing to do with making our opponent call more or less.

      Last, but not least, people don't care so much about the bet size if it's 3-4 BBs more, they still call 1-2 times with just about the same range so we should maximize our value when we think we don't get folds.