[NL20-NL50] AJo 3bet vs MP

    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,722
      PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 52.46 BB (VPIP: 37.84, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 77)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.69, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.74, Hands: 467)
      Hero (BB): 376.12 BB
      UTG: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 20.27, PFR: 16.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.92, Hands: 464)
      MP: 205.62 BB (VPIP: 24.19, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 6.12, Hands: 128)
      CO: 117.68 BB (VPIP: 19.38, PFR: 16.83, 3Bet Preflop: 7.07, Hands: 1,365)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: A:diamond:

      fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP calls 8 BB

      Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond: 6:diamond: 7:diamond:
      Hero bets 11 BB, MP calls 11 BB

      Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
      Hero bets 27 BB, MP calls 27 BB

      River: (98.5 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
      Hero bets 68 BB, fold

      Hero wins 94.06 BB



      I guess it is better to fold preflop especially vs guy who calls a lot flop and turn and that we are deep so he calls even wider preflop? He folded to 3bet 0/3 times
      Calls flop 80%, turn 70%, river 0%

      Is it ok to bet river and size? I think he could even call with middle pair plus fd, and then I hope he folds such a hand on river. So is river ok vs him?
      Vs other guys who have stronger range I would give up river.
  • 5 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      Hi

      Preflop: This could be a call or fold. How wide is he opening from MP?

      Flop: You'll definitely need some 3-barrel bluffs and A:dX is the best hand to do it with because you block many flushes from villain's calling range.

      I would just bet larger on every street. Maybe 2/3 pot on flop and then 3/4 pot on T and R.
    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
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      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,722
      Originally posted by mbml
      Hi

      Preflop: This could be a call or fold. How wide is he opening from MP?

      Flop: You'll definitely need some 3-barrel bluffs and A:dX is the best hand to do it with because you block many flushes from villain's calling range.

      I would just bet larger on every street. Maybe 2/3 pot on flop and then 3/4 pot on T and R.

      He opens 16% MP. My range 3bet vs MP and UTG is AJ,AQ, KQ, 89-TJs as bluff, but I am not sure how good it is to have AJ, AQ, KQ? Maybe fold with those hands?

      What would be the 3bet range percantage vs UTG and MP who open UTG 10-15%, and MP 15-18% (reggs) ?

      Could you please suggest a range, if not a top secret :)


      2) So if you bet using your bet sizes, then we would finish playing for stacks? Would you play AA, KK,QQ this way? And how many bluff combos?

      Actually, what I don't understand, when I 3 barrel, what should be my bluff range % and value range %(ratio)? I guess it depends how much opponent fold to 3rd barrel, so e.g if he folds 60%, I need to have 60% bluffs and 40% value to exploit him?
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      1. Vs a 10% range, you could argue for a 0% 3-bet range (assuming you want to be balanced)
      Vs a 15% range, you can probably 3-bet around 4% and vs a 18% range you can go for 5-6%.

      2. You'll probably get in about 150bb. That depends on whether you are aiming for a balanced strategy or not. Of course bluffing all combos of A:dX may end up being too loose, and there are way too many variables to consider.

      Think about the pot odds you're offering him. You must be bluffing that often for him to have a breakeven call.
    • mlatasrb
      mlatasrb
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      Joined: 01.04.2012 Posts: 2,722
      Originally posted by mbml
      1. Vs a 10% range, you could argue for a 0% 3-bet range (assuming you want to be balanced)
      Vs a 15% range, you can probably 3-bet around 4% and vs a 18% range you can go for 5-6%.

      2. You'll probably get in about 150bb. That depends on whether you are aiming for a balanced strategy or not. Of course bluffing all combos of A:dX may end up being too loose, and there are way too many variables to consider.

      Think about the pot odds you're offering him. You must be bluffing that often for him to have a breakeven call.
      For 4% 3bet range would you construct around 40% value and 60% bluff range in order not to let him exploit us with 4bet bluff (since he needs around 60% FE, depending on his size 4bet)?
      Or we could have even more bluffs, and if opponent is 4bettign only value hands, we continue only value hands, and if he more bluffs in range than we can have shove bluff range?
    • mbml
      mbml
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      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,717
      The 60/40 is just a rough guideline vs a balanced opponent and certainly u can make adjustments based on his 4b range composition.