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[NL2-NL10] TPTK, bet F & T face out-of-the-blue R shove

    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
      Super Moderator
      Super Moderator
      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 11,391
      IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BB: $4.17 (83.4 bb) Complete unknown
      UTG: $1.50 (30 bb)
      MP: $5 (100 bb)
      CO: $0.95 (19 bb)
      BTN: $8.98 (179.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $5.58 (111.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.30) Q 5 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, BB calls $0.15

      Turn: ($0.60) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.45

      River: ($1.50) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $3.25, Hero ???

      I bet half-size on flop to NOT fold out weaker Qs, Ax small PP
      He likes that, so I bet bigger on turn, believing I still have the best hand, and believing he will call again with worse.

      I'm willing to check/check the river, but get a 2.5x pot bet.

      I do NOT believe he has the goods.
      If he REALLY wanted a call, he would bet something callable.
      If thought I would call with my entire range, he would shove.
      I could easily fold to a shove, but this ???

      How to proceed?

      Nothing I could think of seemed right.
      Folding seemed too exploitable,
      Raising seemed spewy.
      Calling seemed slightly less spewy,.

      Cheers,
      --VS
  • 2 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      I would bet $0.2 on the flop.
      Villain is probably never folding Ax/PP/Qx to one bet.

      Turn is good.

      As played, against a potentially fishy guy I think we can bet around $0.7 on the river for thin value against Qx.
      Once we check, I am pretty much folding right away against this bet. Players at these limits aren't really going to exploit us and they can't when they don't have information about us, also I highly doubt he bluffs when he overbets like this.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • fusionpk
      fusionpk
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,695
      Originally posted by VorpalF2F
      I bet half-size on flop to NOT fold out weaker Qs, Ax small PP
      He likes that, so I bet bigger on turn, believing I still have the best hand, and believing he will call again with worse.
      I'm sorry but that was so funny to read hahaha!

      I actually prefer your half pot to the above recommended 0.2$ in _general_ if the guy still calls his Ax/KJ type hands no matter what size then 0.2$ is better.

      Turn betting a bigger size is good, i think what you bet is fine. We no longer care about the Ax type hands, we are now targeting the stronger parts of his range.

      River I think you have to bet fold 1/3-1/2 pot here, leaning more towards halfpot. Then fold if he raises. If you don't think you can get value, you are checking to check fold even if he bets only $1 here. (ofc if he bets 10cents or sth ridiculous u look him up)