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[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL50 QJs flop chR as pfa

    • duder1n0
      duder1n0
      Black
      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 5,335
      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

      MP: $46.44 (92.9 bb)
      Hero (CO): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
      BTN: $50 (100 bb)
      SB: $50 (100 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q J
      MP folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, 2 folds

      Flop: ($3.25) 4 3 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero raises to $7, BTN calls $5

      Turn: ($17.25) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11

      River: ($39.25) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Results:
      $39.25 pot ($1.77 rake)
      Final Board: 4 3 2 K 3
      Hero showed Q J and lost (-$19.25 net)
      BTN showed T 8 and won $37.48 ($18.23 net)



      BTN 22/18/11 302 hands
      BTN vs CO call 10% (1/10)
      foldtoCbet flop 57%
      bet vs missed cbet flop 80% (4/5)
      AFq F/T/R 40/33/20
      wtsd/w$sd 29/56


      Is it a good spot to have a chRaise range as pfa? Is it a good hand to include?
      I thought he could stab here a lot, and I have backdoor equity to barrel.
      Turn? K is a scarecard basically, and strengthens my perceived range as well.
      River is basically bad, but I could fire to make him fold stubborn midpairs with a (f.e. 8:d8/9:d9).
      What do you think about his river checkback btw? Is my range so polarized, that he doesnt have a valuebet with a weak flush?
  • 2 replies
    • Holy93
      Holy93
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.06.2011 Posts: 863
      Very interesting spot. I think you should definately have a check/raise range as PFR here, but how should we construct our ranges here?
      I think something like that:

      For value you can check/raise with: 44,33,22,A5s,56s, AA (#23)
      Semi-bluff check/raise: Ad3d,Ad6d,Ad7d,Ad8d,Ad9d,AdTd,AdJd,AdQd,AdKd (#9)
      Bluff check/raise: 7h6h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Ah6h, Ah7h,Ah8h,Ah9h,AhTh (#12)
      Cbet:55-KK, flushdraws (54#)
      Check/call: AhKh,AhQh (#2)

      What do you think about these?

      After he called flop, his range is (not nut)FD, and mid pockets. K is definately a scarecard, as you check/raise here with FDs, so it's a bet, but a bigger one, like 70-75% pot size. He should fold his mid PPs i think, so I'd giveup on river.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      I´m not sure if Ax hands give you enough respect and pairs would usually not b/f, so I would likely not c/r that board, although c/r bluff in general should be fine if board was low and coordinated.
      You likely have to balance out c/r also your strong hands. Not a worse hand to double barrel, so it should be fine and I would also give up river.

      He may fold his medium pp-s with flushdraw, but since flushdraw completed, he can aslo have there slowplayed flush or boat.

      What do you think about his river checkback btw? Is my range so polarized, that he doesnt have a valuebet with a weak flush?
      - I guess he wanted to see what ranges you take that line - mostly you´re going to c/f anyway, so he does not loose too much value and not too many players would c/r that with worse hands than flushes (at least for value)

      best regards,