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[NL2-NL10] NL10 limp-push

    • JoJo0606
      Joined: 07.02.2008 Posts: 49
      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at

      UTG ($5.15)
      UTG 1 ($7.80)
      MP1 ($10.75)
      MP2 ($18.15)
      Hero ($2.35)
      CO ($2.10)
      BTN ($15.55)
      SB ($12.95)
      BB ($9.10)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3 9:club: 9:diamond:
      1 fold, UTG 1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, 4 folds, UTG 1 raises to $3.20, MP2 folds, Hero goes all-in $1.65

      Flop: 8:diamond: 7:club: J:diamond: ($5.90, 2 players)

      Turn: 7:diamond: ($5.90, 2 players)

      River: A:spade: ($5.90, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $5.05
      UTG 1 shows: J:heart: Q:club:
      Hero shows: 9:club: 9:diamond:

      UTG 1 wins $5.65 ( won $2.45 )
      MP2 lost -$0.20
      Hero lost -$2.35

      I know i had the odds to push here but is it still ok to push here even thou he played his hand so strangly??

      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      7 players
      Converted at

      UTG ($14.00)
      UTG 1 ($1.85)
      MP ($9.90)
      CO ($9.95)
      BTN ($9.85)
      SB ($22.70)
      Hero ($2.00)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is BB 7:diamond: 7:club:
      5 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, SB goes all-in $22.70, Hero goes all-in $1.40

      Flop: 2:diamond: A:club: 4:spade: ($24.70, 2 players)

      Turn: 5:club: ($24.70, 2 players)

      River: Q:club: ($24.70, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $4
      SB shows: 8:diamond: 8:heart:
      Hero shows: 7:diamond: 7:club:

      SB wins $24.50 ( won $1.80 )
      Hero lost -$2.00

      Similar situation same question
  • 5 replies
    • Stafinjsh
      Joined: 26.08.2008 Posts: 82
      In my opinion:
      Example 1
      1.SSS tells you to fold 99 when you face a raise, even if its a minraise.
      2.Limp-reraise often mean a strong hand, and I would fold here, if you dont have any special reads on him
      3.Playing SSS when you got over 20bb at a table you need to tightnen up even more!
      Personaly I would make only a move holding AK+

      Example 2
      1.Seems like a steal raise from him, but i would rather fold(witch is the best action in my eyes) or push(if you whant to try to resteal him)with 77 (77, seems too weak for me even in sutch a situation)
    • davidangel
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      example 1: Your bet ratio = bet size .70 / remaining stack 1.65 or 2.3:1
      correct move: call
      When raising a minraise dont you bet 4x minraise + 1x minraise per limper? (judges?) if correct pre-flop bet = $1.00?
      example 2: Your bet ratio = bet size .6 / remaining stack 1.4 or 2.3 :1
      correct move: call
    • gaz639
      Joined: 03.05.2008 Posts: 506
      personally i would have folded both of those but can understand why you played 99 the way you did, what are your stats like? mainly your VP$IP? I believe you are playing to loose if you are using sss strat but lets see what the judges say

      to the re-raise question i believe that if someone bets you 3xbet+1 per limper providing you hold the right hand.
    • JoJo0606
      Joined: 07.02.2008 Posts: 49
      To answer some questions.

      I have a 5,5 VPIP over 20k hands. I never respect minraise and treat it as a limper but reraise 3x minraise+1 for every caller/limper.

      Also i know that acording to the strategy i had enough ratio to push here but im curious if its still ok even with this strange play.
    • ysessa
      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 1,331
      Hi JoJo0606,

      hand1 is a special situation limp raise I would fold my 99 here and safe the 1,65$

      hand2 nice hand well played it looks like a steal 77 is a good hand.