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Common River Situation.

    • Itsnevereasy
      Itsnevereasy
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      Joined: 08.08.2010 Posts: 381
      Consider the following hand that I made up.

      Board:

      J :heart: 7 :heart: 4 :club: 8 :club: T :spade:

      Action:

      We are on the button against the BB.

      We minraise preflop,
      Cbet Flop
      Barrel Turn

      On the river the effective stacks are $400 and the pot is $100. Our opponent checks.

      Ranges:

      For the sake of this example assume the following ranges:

      our opponent's range (capped):

      9x (50%)
      two pair/set (50%)

      Our range (uncapped):

      Q9 (5%)
      9x (20%)
      two pair/ set (15%)
      air/missed flush draws (60%)

      Questions:

      1) What are our options on the river?
      2) What's the best play vs a straightforward reg?
      3) What's our GTO strategy?
      4) What's our opponent's GTO strategy?
  • 6 replies
    • lnternet
      lnternet
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      Joined: 19.06.2012 Posts: 782
      3)&4)

      let me say 1% range is 1 combo, meaning ranges are normalized to 100 combos

      you shove $400 Q9 (5), air (4)
      you bet $40 9x (20), air (5.7)
      you check $0 twopair,set (15), air (50.3)

      he calls a shove 9x (20)
      he calls $40 9x (50), twopair (21.4)
    • Itsnevereasy
      Itsnevereasy
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      Joined: 08.08.2010 Posts: 381
      Thanks for your reply lnternet. I have learnt a ton from your videos, sir.

      a)If he calls the $400 bet more than 20% of the time, we should only shove with Q9.
      b) if he calls less than 20% we should shove everything.

      Is a) and b) correct?
    • lnternet
      lnternet
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      Joined: 19.06.2012 Posts: 782
      a) yes, as a bluff shove is not good and a value bet with 9x is better than a split bluff.

      b) no. with air a bluff is better than a check at 19% calls, so we shove all air.
      But 9x still better to make a small value bet than to split bluff.
      And a set has positive showdownvalue as well, you can check and win sometimes. This has higher EV than bluffing up to some call percent below 20%.
    • BC1989RF
      BC1989RF
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      Joined: 09.04.2010 Posts: 846
      These are interesting questions.
      what about 1) & 2) though?

      1) options
      - betting [33% ; 50%]pot is probably better than 60%+. Makes hero's perceived value range wider

      - i would have split it this way: vbet {9x+}, cback {2p, sets, overpairs}, and mayble bluff the rest sometimes.
      - Maybe vbetting bottom sets is okay though?


      2) vs straightforward/standard reg
      - how often do you think such a vilain has 9x?
      It will change given vilain's preflop range and his flop strategy but assuming he defends sth like 20-25% preflop

      and c/r {sets, 2p, fd+str8draws, str8draws} and calls {pairs, other fds, sometimes oesd} on the flop?

      - i thought it was a bad spot for a bluff but assming he call {2p+} only its prolly a good spot to bluff cheaply?
    • pleno1
      pleno1
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      Cool thread.
    • BC1989RF
      BC1989RF
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      Joined: 09.04.2010 Posts: 846
      so what do you do on the river M. Leonard?