2 pair FR

    • stttNNN
      stttNNN
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 1,333
      pretty tight guy rasing UTG. we flop 2 pair on this board i like to go for the raise.. I think it is std. but when villain c/r us on the turn we are up against the nutz or am I wrong?

      what do u guys think about my bet sizing?


      $2.50/$5 No Limit Holdem
      HEM2
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($1,021.69) 204bb
      UTG+1 ($281.58) 56bb
      MP1 ($991.31) 198bb
      MP2 ($950.64) 190bb
      CO ($658.69) 132bb
      stttNNN (BTN) ($640.38) 128bb
      SB ($959.31) 192bb
      BB ($1,608.36) 322bb

      Pre-Flop: ($7.50, 8 players) stttNNN is BTN J:club: Q:club:
      UTG raises to $17.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $17.50, 1 fold, stttNNN calls $17.50, SB calls $15, 1 fold

      Flop: 10:heart: J:diamond: Q:spade: ($75, 4 players)
      SB checks, UTG bets $40, MP2 calls $40, stttNNN raises to $140, SB folds, UTG calls $100, MP2 calls $100

      Turn: 4:heart: ($482.63, 3 players)
      UTG checks, MP2 checks, stttNNN bets $245, UTG goes all-in $864.19, MP2 folds, stttNNN folds

      Final Pot: $345.81
      stttNNN shows
      J:club: Q:club:

      UTG wins $1,584.19 (net +$602.50)

      MP2 lost $117.50
      stttNNN lost $402.50
      SB lost $15
  • 7 replies
    • Itsnevereasy
      Itsnevereasy
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.08.2010 Posts: 381
      I have no experience playing FR but It feels like your value bet is too thin on the turn. After both of your opponents call on the flop, one of them is bound to have a set or a straight...

      The flop raise might also be too thin.
    • peche025
      peche025
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.12.2008 Posts: 1,387
      If utg is tight, I'd consider flatting. His cb range of that board might only be TT+ AK which crushes you...even if you add in AQ, KQs and 99 to his cb range you still only have 33% equity
    • getdotacom
      getdotacom
      Black
      Joined: 06.04.2008 Posts: 607
      yeah, it's definitely not a raise OTF against nit in FR. tbh, I could fold this hand on 3barrel against fr nits. I think he has 0 bluffing range and he probably is c/calling hands like KQ, AQ, KK here, so u maybe beat only AA :) U have pretty much a bluffcatcher.
    • Lefty85
      Lefty85
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 168
      Unless there is a fish in the pot you should just fold this hand preflop. Since UTG is tight your hand is just crushed by his range.

      Not sure from which hands you are getting value by raising the flop. I would just call flop and turn and fold river unimproved.
    • mafrendd
      mafrendd
      Basic
      Joined: 28.04.2013 Posts: 11
      the flop is a definitely a call. We should be aware of the board texture. And as played , yes turn is a must fold vs his xr. Now i have couple of questions to you. Why did you think you should raise on the flop vs his range here, and why is your raise size so small on flop (you offered $282.63:$100 to UTG, and $382.63:100 to MP2), and why did you cbet on the turn like less than haf pot :)
    • stttNNN
      stttNNN
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 1,333
      Thx for all commentz think gonna think about this i the futhere!

      Originally posted by mafrendd
      the flop is a definitely a call. We should be aware of the board texture. And as played , yes turn is a must fold vs his xr. Now i have couple of questions to you. Why did you think you should raise on the flop vs his range here, and why is your raise size so small on flop (you offered $282.63:$100 to UTG, and $382.63:100 to MP2), and why did you cbet on the turn like less than haf pot :)
      Well , OTF I raise couse I wanna get vaule from all kin of stright draws I dont want them to get any cheep card. When I bet around halfpott on the turn i wanna fell I can fold if I face a raise like I do.. But I think it is pretty fishy and bad to bet like I do and think as I do on the turn..
    • mafrendd
      mafrendd
      Basic
      Joined: 28.04.2013 Posts: 11
      fine ! :)