Stud8 lower limits - Evaluate me!

    • Asaf92
      Asaf92
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2009 Posts: 104
      PokerStars Hand #104376734560: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2013/09/20 12:20:57 EET [2013/09/20 5:20:57 ET]
      Table 'Blok IV' 8-max
      Seat 1: Villian1 ($5.65 in chips)
      Seat 2: Villian2 ($7.80 in chips)
      Seat 3: HERO ($4.82 in chips)
      Seat 5: Villian3 ($0.32 in chips)
      Seat 6: Villian4 ($8 in chips)
      Seat 7: Villian5 ($3.01 in chips)
      Seat 8: Villian6 ($4.08 in chips)
      Villian1: posts the ante $0.02
      Villian2: posts the ante $0.02
      HERO: posts the ante $0.02
      Villian3: posts the ante $0.02
      Villian4: posts the ante $0.02
      Villian5: posts the ante $0.02
      Villian6: posts the ante $0.02
      *** 3rd STREET ***
      Dealt to Villian1 [7d]
      Dealt to Villian2 [5c]
      Dealt to HERO [8d 8c 8h]
      Dealt to Villian3 [Kd]
      Dealt to Villian4 [4h]
      Dealt to Villian5 [Ah]
      Dealt to Villian6 [7h]
      Villian4: bets $0.10
      Villian5: calls $0.10
      Villian6: calls $0.10
      Villian1: calls $0.10
      Villian2: calls $0.10
      HERO: raises $0.10 to $0.20
      Villian3: raises $0.10 to $0.30 and is all-in
      Villian4: calls $0.20
      Villian5: calls $0.20
      Villian6: calls $0.20
      Villian1: calls $0.20
      Villian2: calls $0.20
      HERO: raises $0.10 to $0.40
      Betting is capped
      Villian4: calls $0.10
      Villian5: calls $0.10
      Villian6: calls $0.10
      Villian1: calls $0.10
      Villian2: calls $0.10
      *** 4th STREET ***
      Dealt to Villian1 [7d] [9s]
      Dealt to Villian2 [5c] [6c]
      Dealt to HERO [8d 8c 8h] [3h]
      Dealt to Villian3 [Kd] [5d]
      Dealt to Villian4 [4h] [Kc]
      Dealt to Villian5 [Ah] [Jh]
      Dealt to Villian6 [7h] [2c]
      Villian5: bets $0.10
      Villian6: calls $0.10
      Villian1: folds
      Villian2: calls $0.10
      HERO: raises $0.10 to $0.20
      Villian4: calls $0.20
      Villian5: raises $0.10 to $0.30
      Villian6: calls $0.20
      Villian2: calls $0.20
      HERO: calls $0.10
      Villian4: calls $0.10
      *** 5th STREET ***
      Dealt to Villian2 [5c 6c] [7s]
      Dealt to HERO [8d 8c 8h 3h] [6h]
      Dealt to Villian3 [Kd 5d] [Js]
      Dealt to Villian4 [4h Kc] [7c]
      Dealt to Villian5 [Ah Jh] [Jc]
      Dealt to Villian6 [7h 2c] [3c]
      Villian5: bets $0.20
      Villian6: calls $0.20
      Villian2: calls $0.20
      HERO: calls $0.20
      Villian4: calls $0.20
      *** 6th STREET ***
      Dealt to Villian2 [5c 6c 7s] [As]
      Dealt to HERO [8d 8c 8h 3h 6h] [3s]
      Dealt to Villian3 [Kd 5d Js] [Ks]
      Dealt to Villian4 [4h Kc 7c] [Kh]
      Dealt to Villian5 [Ah Jh Jc] [Qd]
      Dealt to Villian6 [7h 2c 3c] [3d]
      Villian4: checks
      Villian5: bets $0.20
      Villian6: calls $0.20
      Villian2: calls $0.20
      HERO: calls $0.20
      Villian4: calls $0.20
      *** RIVER ***
      Dealt to HERO [8d 8c 8h 3h 6h 3s] [Tc]
      Villian4: checks
      Villian5: bets $0.20
      Villian6: calls $0.20
      Villian2: calls $0.20
      HERO: calls $0.20
      Villian4: calls $0.20
      *** SHOW DOWN ***
      Villian5: shows [5h Qh Ah Jh Jc Qd 2h] (HI: a flush, Ace high)
      Villian6: shows [4d 8s 7h 2c 3c 3d Ts] (HI: a pair of Threes; LO: 8,7,4,3,2)
      Villian2: mucks hand
      HERO: shows [8d 8c 8h 3h 6h 3s Tc] (HI: a full house, Eights full of Threes)
      Villian4: mucks hand
      HERO collected $2.55 from side pot
      Villian6 collected $2.55 from side pot
      Villian3: mucks hand
      HERO collected $1.07 from main pot
      Villian6 collected $1.07 from main pot
      *** SUMMARY ***
      Total pot $7.34 Main pot $2.14. Side pot $5.10. | Rake $0.10
      Seat 1: Villian1 folded on the 4th Street
      Seat 2: Villian2 mucked [Ac 9d 5c 6c 7s As 6d]
      Seat 3: HERO showed [8d 8c 8h 3h 6h 3s Tc] and won ($3.62) with HI: a full house, Eights full of Threes
      Seat 5: Villian3 mucked [Qc Qs Kd 5d Js Ks 9h]
      Seat 6: Villian4 mucked [2s 4c 4h Kc 7c Kh 5s]
      Seat 7: Villian5 showed [5h Qh Ah Jh Jc Qd 2h] and lost with HI: a flush, Ace high
      Seat 8: Villian6 showed [4d 8s 7h 2c 3c 3d Ts] and won ($3.62) with HI: a pair of Threes; LO: 8,7,4,3,2



      I know that i should be looking to Scoop, but in a multi-way pot i think it is profitable to play for half pot.
      Am i right?
  • 3 replies
    • badgerer
      badgerer
      Silver
      Joined: 29.03.2010 Posts: 555
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 Limit Stud Hi/Lo $0.02 Ante - 7 players -

      3rd Street: (1.4 SB)
      Seat 1: xx xx 7 :diamond: ____Seat 1 calls____Seat 1 calls____Seat 1 calls
      Seat 2: xx xx 5 :club: ____Seat 2 calls____Seat 2 calls____Seat 2 calls
      Hero: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: 8 :heart: ___Hero raises___Hero completes
      Seat 5: xx xx K :diamond: ____Seat 5 raises all in
      Seat 6: xx xx 4 :heart: ____Seat 6 completes____Seat 6 calls____Seat 6 calls
      Seat 7: xx xx A :heart: ____Seat 7 calls____Seat 7 calls____Seat 7 calls
      Seat 8: xx xx 7 :heart: ____Seat 8 calls____Seat 8 calls____Seat 8 calls

      4th Street: (28.4 SB) (7 players - 1 is all in)
      Seat 1: xx xx 7 :diamond: 9 :spade: ____Seat 1 folds
      Seat 2: xx xx 5 :club: 6 :club: ____Seat 2 calls____Seat 2 calls
      Hero: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: 8 :heart: 3 :heart: ___Hero raises___Hero calls
      Seat 5: xx xx K :diamond: 5 :diamond:
      Seat 6: xx xx 4 :heart: K :club: ____Seat 6 calls____Seat 6 calls
      Seat 7: xx xx A :heart: J :heart: ____Seat 7 bets____Seat 7 3-bets
      Seat 8: xx xx 7 :heart: 2 :club: ____Seat 8 calls____Seat 8 calls

      5th Street: (21.7 BB) (6 players - 1 is all in)
      Seat 2: xx xx 5 :club: 6 :club: 7 :spade: ____Seat 2 calls
      Hero: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: 8 :heart: 3 :heart: 6 :heart: ___Hero calls
      Seat 5: xx xx K :diamond: 5 :diamond: J :spade:
      Seat 6: xx xx 4 :heart: K :club: 7 :club: ____Seat 6 calls
      Seat 7: xx xx A :heart: J :heart: J :club: ____Seat 7 bets
      Seat 8: xx xx 7 :heart: 2 :club: 3 :club: ____Seat 8 calls

      6th Street: (26.7 BB) (6 players - 1 is all in)
      Seat 2: xx xx 5 :club: 6 :club: 7 :spade: A :spade: ____Seat 2 calls
      Hero: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: 8 :heart: 3 :heart: 6 :heart: 3 :spade: ___Hero calls
      Seat 5: xx xx K :diamond: 5 :diamond: J :spade: K :spade:
      Seat 6: xx xx 4 :heart: K :club: 7 :club: K :heart: ____Seat 6 checks____Seat 6 calls
      Seat 7: xx xx A :heart: J :heart: J :club: Q :diamond: ____Seat 7 bets
      Seat 8: xx xx 7 :heart: 2 :club: 3 :club: 3 :diamond: ____Seat 8 calls

      7th Street: (31.7 BB) (6 players - 1 is all in)
      Seat 2: xx xx 5 :club: 6 :club: 7 :spade: A :spade: xx____Seat 2 calls
      Hero: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: 8 :heart: 3 :heart: 6 :heart: 3 :spade: T :club: ___Hero calls
      Seat 5: xx xx K :diamond: 5 :diamond: J :spade: K :spade: xx
      Seat 6: xx xx 4 :heart: K :club: 7 :club: K :heart: xx____Seat 6 checks____Seat 6 calls
      Seat 7: xx xx A :heart: J :heart: J :club: Q :diamond: xx____Seat 7 bets
      Seat 8: xx xx 7 :heart: 2 :club: 3 :club: 3 :diamond: xx____Seat 8 calls

      to me it looks like seat 7 has split aces and you should be capping 4th.

      you should be a little concerned about the low boards on 5th, i would still cap because there is a (very likely) worse high hand in the pot, the two low boards possibly aren't made yet because they are passive, although they may both have not that great lows and be scared of each other. if they arent made you might be able to knock them out by jamming with seat 1 which would be great for you.

      on 6th all the kings are out and there is a dead ace which increases the chances that your boat is good so you should raise and cap, you are probably only getting half but you're not worried about being freerolled anymore.

      7th i would still just cap and go for max value your hand is so well disguised .1/.2 players will not be good enough to know you are rolled here. if you run into a boat then so be it. if you lose your nerve on the BB streets you could consider just calling a 3b rather than capping but one bet on 5th and 6th should not be enough to put you off raising here.

      overall i think you played it way too passively. this is a great situation for you in stud8 you have a low board but you have a very strong and well disguised high hand.

      also hand converter!
    • SonOfSonOfSpock
      SonOfSonOfSpock
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.10.2011 Posts: 78
      Stud8 lower limits - Evaluate me!
      Just one player in that round folded in the 3rd and other in the 4rd, typical low limits fishing ; when the pot gets huge they don't fold.

      You have other 8 missing and you really don't need him ; you have low cards as well.
      too passively
    • Lazza61
      Lazza61
      Headadmin
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      Joined: 23.03.2011 Posts: 9,198
      Cap every street until you think you may be beaten. Rolled up trips should never be played passively. You must ensure low hunters pay full price to chase their lows.

      You have blockers to SDs for seat 1 and 2. There are dead hearts hurting seat 7s possible FD.

      Ks are all dead. a J is dead, the 3s are dead. This is a great board to keep capping especially once you boat up.

      Your hand is so well disguised that to villains it looks like you are low hunting.

      Playing to scoop also means pricing low draws out and forcing them to fold potential half pot.