[November Marathon] - [Rihard4a]

    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Lets get this started. Short description.

      I play on Stars, NL10 Zoom right now. Gonna start blogging tomorrow. GL everybody else.

      Pleno1 get ready to review me kthnxbye.

      Stars SN: Rihard4a
  • 85 replies
    • vuciitis
      vuciitis
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      will be following fellow zoom player :)

      GL
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Best of luck Rihard!

      Back to back promotion wins for you?

      Let's see :)
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Really hope so Gary. :f_biggrin:
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      :D
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      I will summarize goals for this marathon.

      :spade: Play at least 15k hands a week
      :spade: Post at least 4 updates per week
      :spade: Post hands with deep thought process along with them
      :spade: 3-table Zoom
      :spade: Review each session's biggest pots
      :spade: Post some thoughts on overall game
      :spade: Win

      Some standard to keep my self going through this. I know this challenge with such competition will be though, but I will try my best!

      Regards,

      Rihard
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Update #1

      Day of the month has concluded and had 3 sessions during the day. A bit swingy day overall. First session was kinda bad, was playing too aggressive from the blinds and donating through my redline. Sorted that out after all.



      I still tend to overplay some hands, especially having problems playing from the blinds. Kinda after a while I forget that I should play a bit more value heavy, especially on NL10.

      Session hands


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $10.64 (106.4 bb)
      Hero (SB): $10.98 (109.8 bb)
      BB: $6.92 (69.2 bb)
      UTG: $8.75 (87.5 bb)
      MP: $11.08 (110.8 bb)
      CO: $14.92 (149.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade: 9:spade:
      UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.70, BB folds, UTG calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

      Preflop is a standard isolation of limpers. I make it big so the fishes pay :f_biggrin:

      Flop: ($2.90) 6:spade: 2:spade: Q:heart: (4 players)
      Hero bets $2.20, UTG folds, MP calls $2.20, BTN folds

      Flop is really good, I bet big to extract value from their weak hands/draws and also to increase fold equity.

      Turn: ($7.30) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.08 and is all-in, MP calls $8.08

      Turn I decide to just shove because betting would leave me like 1/4 pot bet anyway so betting smaller has no point. Besides he might fold his weak hands to my shove. He is probably not folding Qx hands, but he can call also other weird draw that he has.

      River: ($23.46) 6:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)


      In PokerStove I put in some limp-calling hands he might have.

      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      5,060 games 0.002 secs 2,530,000 games/sec

      Board: 6s 2s Qh 4c
      Dead:

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 50.830% 50.83% 00.00% 2572 0.00 { As9s }
      Hand 1: 49.170% 49.17% 00.00% 2488 0.00 { K8s-K7s, Q9s-Q7s, J9s, Js8s, J7s, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, Q9o+, 86o, 76o }




      Bad beat of the day

      http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands...4827_2B0E635E94

      Hand of the day


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $14.29 (142.9 bb)
      SB: $22.15 (221.5 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
      UTG: $15.40 (154 bb)
      MP: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
      CO: $21.27 (212.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:club: J:diamond:
      2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.05) 9:spade: Q:spade: 3:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.55, CO calls $0.55

      My betsize is relatively small because of the Q on the flop. I think I should've made it bigger though because the flop is drawy, so the bet size should be $0.75.

      Turn: ($2.15) 3:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

      I bet small again because turn bricks completely, if he calls then he has Qx surely. I think draws would've raised the flop.

      River: ($4.35) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $8 and is all-in, CO calls $8

      I decide to shove river. If he had the Qx, he most likely isn't folding it anyway, maybe he should but it is like 50/50. He definitely isn't folding hist straight if he had a draw. Other weak hands he is folding no matter what I bet here, so shoving is the best option.

      Results: $20.35 pot ($0.92 rake)
      Final Board: 9:spade: Q:spade: 3:club: 3:diamond: J:heart:
      Hero showed J:club: J:diamond: and won $19.43 ($9.28 net)
      CO showed A:heart: Q:diamond: and lost (-$10.15 net)



      Best Regards,

      Rihard
    • Tomaloc
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      wouldn't call iso oop with A9s "standard", might be fine IP, but in SB it looks more like a fair spot to just complete and try to get a nut flush and cooler everyone. if you overflush some random fish you'll still go AI anyway :f_biggrin:

      as played the turn range you give him is wrong.
      - remove all 4x without a spade
      - K8s,K7s,J9s,J7s are different from Ks8s,...,Js7s
      - too much 6x imo and he won't call all of them, though if he folds them on the turn that's cool ofc :D

      though the whole thing just seems unnecessarily spewy to me.


      JJ hand i don't think you should say that draws will raise the flop, because actually they most often won't. i think it's fine to bet twice and c/c blank rivers.
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Originally posted by Tomaloc
      wouldn't call iso oop with A9s "standard", might be fine IP, but in SB it looks more like a fair spot to just complete and try to get a nut flush and cooler everyone. if you overflush some random fish you'll still go AI anyway :f_biggrin:

      as played the turn range you give him is wrong.
      - remove all 4x without a spade
      - K8s,K7s,J9s,J7s are different from Ks8s,...,Js7s
      - too much 6x imo and he won't call all of them, though if he folds them on the turn that's cool ofc :D

      though the whole thing just seems unnecessarily spewy to me.


      JJ hand i don't think you should say that draws will raise the flop, because actually they most often won't. i think it's fine to bet twice and c/c blank rivers.
      I wouldn't say that it is spewy. I think I played it to the max EV ott. Maybe the limp-calling range I gave was a bit vague, however you have to agree that they limp-call very weird hands. :D Btw, I won the hand, he had Js8s.

      JJ hand I agree, not everyone raises draws otf, usually those players are solid regs or simply multitablers. What do you think about betsize? Imo making it too big isn't necessary, because hands that will continue on that flop are straight draws/flush draws and Qx, sometimes 9x and the rest are going to fold to any betsize. And the shove on river is really max EV because most of the hands that call the flop hit that river.
    • Tomaloc
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      A9s you put yourself into an uncomfortable spot with preflop play :f_biggrin:
      you won't be ahead of his turn call range, though with some fold equity it should be about fine i guess. anyway you also have other lines on preflop (eg complete, iso smaller as "pot sweetener") and flop (eg overbet, bet smaller), though completing pre just seems clearly better to me.
      the main thing is that A9s isn't strong enough to iso 3 limpers oop imo, as they can l/c better Ax and it's hard to control the action oop. see how you turned a clearly +EV spot (complete and play postflop) into a marginal one :P

      JJ hand i like it, no problem in making your sizings face up against fish (and even against most regs), and i like the river shove against fish. agree with your comments :f_biggrin:
    • lelemalee
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      Hi man.
      Wellcome back to zoom.
      Completing A9s seems better.If you do isolate to 5bb OOP be sure to make it 8bb there.
      As you can see you kinda played 240bb pot with marginal hand OOP.That's the spots where we don't want to play like that 240bb pots as we know that they are never floding Qx there.
      Just complete pre and let it go. (IMO)
      With JJ you can bet bigger on the flop and the turn, there's alot weaker hands that calls us.
      Both plays are fine (betting river close to pot and shoving). (IMO)
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Originally posted by lelemalee
      Hi man.
      Wellcome back to zoom.
      Completing A9s seems better.If you do isolate to 5bb OOP be sure to make it 8bb there.
      As you can see you kinda played 240bb pot with marginal hand OOP.That's the spots where we don't want to play like that 240bb pots as we know that they are never floding Qx there.
      Just complete pre and let it go. (IMO)
      With JJ you can bet bigger on the flop and the turn, there's alot weaker hands that calls us.
      Both plays are fine (betting river close to pot and shoving). (IMO)
      Never had any problems isolating A9s type of hands OOP. Just bet big strong draws and top pairs and get payed 80% of the time. By the way in any case we are not making them fold Qx hands, just the bad hands. Even if we get called by Qx we still have some good chances to win.

      JJ - betting pot is bad imo, even a lot of weak players just flat even with nut flush on paired board, same with straight. Shoving looks more bluffy for fishes.
    • Rihard4a
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      Update #2

      Have managed to squeeze in couple sessions during the weekends after work. Still gonna play some more tonight. I am kinda on a decent run. I took 1 BI shot yesterday on NL25, which failed unfortunately, however I did feel that I played good. Played just one table to be able to focus and not care about the $$$. NL10 Seem solid at the moment.

      Here the graphs.

      NL10


      NL25


      Overall


      I am going to update later as well.

      Regards,

      Rihard
    • Rihard4a
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      Session hands

      LOL Hand

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $21.91 (219.1 bb)
      SB: $16.87 (168.7 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $14.25 (142.5 bb)
      MP: $14.52 (145.2 bb)
      CO: $12.67 (126.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: Q:diamond:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP folds, CO calls $1

      Flop: ($2.95) 8:heart: 5:club: 5:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.90, CO calls $1.90

      Turn: ($6.75) 4:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.55, CO calls $3.55

      River: ($13.85) 9:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.25 and is all-in, CO calls $3.25

      Results: $20.35 pot ($0.92 rake)
      Final Board: 8:heart: 5:club: 5:diamond: 4:diamond: 9:club:
      Hero showed Q:spade: Q:diamond: and won $19.43 ($9.43 net)
      CO showed 2:spade: A:club: and lost (-$10 net)


      QQ 3bet pot call down

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (BTN): $15.74 (157.4 bb)
      SB: $10.20 (102 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $9.04 (90.4 bb)
      MP: $13.81 (138.1 bb)
      CO: $10.79 (107.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q:diamond: Q:club:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70

      I could probably 4bet, however I think it is more safe to just flat his 3bet IP and take it postflop, because if I 4bet I think most of the time when I get shoved on, I am beat. His 3bet % in BB is 8%. IMO QQ is good to slowplay here.

      Flop: ($2.05) 2:club: 5:heart: 2:heart: (2 players)
      BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

      He bet relatively small, and the board misses like everything apart from flush draws from hands like broadways and SC ( :heart: ) that should be in his range here for cbet. I decide to call and play my position and keep him wide, also keeping my self wide. If I raise I don't rep much my self, just some fd and flopped fh.

      Turn: ($4.45) J:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

      Once he bets again, we can make his range maybe a bit more narrow, however it doesn't change much on this turn because hands that are Jx just connected and he is going with it anyway, I don't want to raise because I am getting action from monster mostly and that is high variance. His betsize is small so I call.


      River: ($9.65) 9:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $5.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.20

      River is just gold for my hand. I get beat by very few hands. (JJ, KK, AA) Once he goes with it, he could do it his J :heart: x :heart: hands, which seem to be more likely than the nuts. EZ call.

      Results: $20.05 pot ($0.90 rake)
      Final Board: 2:club: 5:heart: 2:heart: J:club: 9:club:
      Hero showed Q:diamond: Q:club: and won $19.15 ($9.15 net)
      BB showed A:spade: T:club: and lost (-$10 net) :facepalm:


      86s play it like Tom Dwan...

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (BTN): $10.10 (101 bb)
      SB: $19.58 (195.8 bb)
      BB: $8.83 (88.3 bb)
      UTG: $11.59 (115.9 bb)
      MP: $35.93 (359.3 bb)
      CO: $10.25 (102.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6:diamond: 8:diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.65, BB calls $0.55, Hero calls $0.45

      Having great price for a call, and the SPR is also pretty high which make my hand super playable here.

      Flop: ($1.95) 4:heart: 7:diamond: 6:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, SB folds, BB calls $1.35

      Once they both check, I have pretty easy bet on this board. Obviously multiway they are playing very honest, especially the 3bettor is definitely x/f the flop, he betting here only his strong range. The BB is a fishy guy just to let you know. And SB was a 19/16 guy. BB x/c range here probably is some PP/FD/SD.

      Turn: ($4.65) 5:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $3.20, BB raises to $6.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.63

      Best turn card ever! Easy bet/call.

      River: ($18.31) A:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $18.31 pot ($0.82 rake)
      Final Board: 4:heart: 7:diamond: 6:heart: 5:spade: A:club:
      Hero showed 6:diamond: 8:diamond: and won $17.49 ($8.66 net)
      BB showed 5:heart: 5:club: and lost (-$8.83 net)


      72o :f_biggrin:

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $5.25 (52.5 bb)
      SB: $9.01 (90.1 bb)
      Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $10.78 (107.8 bb)
      MP: $2.99 (29.9 bb)
      CO: $8.85 (88.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 2:heart: 7:diamond:
      UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.35) 7:club: 2:spade: 9:heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.95) 6:club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

      River: ($2.75) A:spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.80, MP raises to $2.09, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.29

      Results: $6.93 pot ($0.31 rake)
      Final Board: 7:club: 2:spade: 9:heart: 6:club: A:spade:
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.90 net)
      Hero showed 2:heart: 7:diamond: and lost (-$2.99 net)
      MP showed A:club: A:heart: and won $6.62 ($3.63 net)


      Marathon graph



      I am feeling pretty confident in my game right now, still doing tweaks here and there. I was watching pleno1's NL100 Zoom video, like it a lot tbh. Gained something new in terms of thought process, if anyone hasn't seen it, recommend to watch. Pleno1 Live Zoom Session

      That's it for today. I am pretty tired from work and poker, so getting to my bed.

      GN Y'all

      Rihard
    • Rihard4a
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      Good morning ballers!

      Popped in to say hi. Gonna have some breakfast soon as my wife makes it for me :f_biggrin: and gonna get going to the gym. #pumptheiron Later gonna have a zoom session. :s_cool:

      Chill

      Rihard
    • TJtheTJ
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      Good morning ballers!
      ty :coolface:

      Hoping to see a baller session result then :f_biggrin:
    • vuciitis
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      suggestion from experience: if you are doing some serious training, dont play after it. u might feel like you can bring your A game, but u cant... leg and back days exausts the body too much. iv paid my price for that and learned from it and suggest you to learn before u pay with your moneeeyz ;)
    • metza
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      I dont think 1BI shots are worthwhile, better to save up 4BI or so and play a good amount of hands to get used to how it plays.
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Originally posted by metza
      I dont think 1BI shots are worthwhile, better to save up 4BI or so and play a good amount of hands to get used to how it plays.
      Would agree :)
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
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      Originally posted by vuciitis
      suggestion from experience: if you are doing some serious training, dont play after it. u might feel like you can bring your A game, but u cant... leg and back days exausts the body too much. iv paid my price for that and learned from it and suggest you to learn before u pay with your moneeeyz ;)
      answer from experience: it doesn't for me. I play better when I leave the negatives in the gym. :) I have pretty decent experience, 3years of heavy weights.