[NL2-NL10] Nl10 - Jj -

    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
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      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP1:
      $6.25
      MP3:
      $9.90
      Hero:
      $2.00

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with J:heart: , J:diamond:
      UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 raises to $0.20, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.80, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.60, MP3 calls $0.60.

      Flop: ($2.65) 6:heart: , 5:heart: , T:heart: (3 players)
      MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.20 (All-In), MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1.20.

      Turn: ($5.05) Q:spade:
      River: ($5.05) 8:spade:


      Final Pot: $5.05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of jacks (Jh Jd)
      MP3 shows a flush, ace high (8h Ah)

      MP3 wins with a flush, ace high (8h Ah)

      Summary I was trying to protect against a flushdraw with the flop all-in, and I had decent flush prospects myself. Question: should I have excercised more caution after the three flop hearts - or was the all-in fine given the situation?
  • 9 replies
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
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      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      It was a good hand and played well.

      You had overpair and a flush draw as well. Considering that you had a made hand as well as less than half the pot then the push was an excellant play. Well done.
    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      Thanks for the reply. Yeah that's what I was thinking - still trying to get to grips with some SSS post-flop situations.

      For instance, If I didn't hold a heart would you still recommend pushing?
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
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      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      Yes i would because you wouldn't have the flush draw but you would still have overpairs and your stack size is still less than half the pot.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      With a limper, minraiser, and caller of the minraise before me, I'm just pushing my Jacks preflop, I reckon.
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,596
      #2 for pushing preflop.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      #3 push preflop

      on the flop an overpair = nuts!!! Never think about folding overpairs when you are preflop raise!
    • davidangel
      davidangel
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      yes, push preflop. My calculations for re-raise minbet are = 6xBB + 2xBB x #limper/callers. Thus your raise is .6 (MP minraise) + .2 (UTG limp) + .2 (MP passive call) = $1.00 This is half your stack, basic SSS says to push. I am pushing this hand preflop as well.
    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
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      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      Originally posted by davidangel
      yes, push preflop. My calculations for re-raise minbet are = 6xBB + 2xBB x #limper/callers. Thus your raise is .6 (MP minraise) + .2 (UTG limp) + .2 (MP passive call) = $1.00 This is half your stack, basic SSS says to push. I am pushing this hand preflop as well.
      Ah. Thanks for clearing that up David. I was under the impression that you should just re-raise 3x the raise + 1x for each caller - and had always disregarded pre-raise limpers.

      Thanks for the replys and evaluation.
    • TheBu11d0g
      TheBu11d0g
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      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      Originally posted by johnbeattie85
      Originally posted by davidangel
      yes, push preflop. My calculations for re-raise minbet are = 6xBB + 2xBB x #limper/callers. Thus your raise is .6 (MP minraise) + .2 (UTG limp) + .2 (MP passive call) = $1.00 This is half your stack, basic SSS says to push. I am pushing this hand preflop as well.
      Ah. Thanks for clearing that up David. I was under the impression that you should just re-raise 3x the raise + 1x for each caller - and had always disregarded pre-raise limpers.

      Thanks for the replys and evaluation.
      John the way david wrote it is exactly the same as raising the min raise 3x and 1 raise for each caller of that min raise, i.e on NL10

      MP2 min raises to .20, CO calls min raise .20

      :spade: 3x min raise = .60 + 1 raise for caller = .20. Total .80

      :diamond: 6xBB for min raise = .60 + 2BB for caller = .20. Total .80.

      Hope this clears things up for you.