In the space of 7 hands......

    • Therk
      Therk
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 47
      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J:spade: , J:heart:
      UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $3.39 (All-In), 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.31 (All-In).

      Flop: ($5.76) 5:diamond: , 9:club: , 3:spade:
      Turn: ($5.76) T:club:
      River: ($5.76) 3:heart:


      Final Pot: $5.76

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, jacks and threes (Js Jh)
      MP3 shows two pairs, kings and threes (Kh Kd)

      MP3 wins with two pairs, kings and threes (Kh Kd)


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      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with T:club: , T:heart:
      Hero raises to $0.16, UTG+1 calls $0.16, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.64, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2.00 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $1.36.

      Flop: ($4.22) J:club: , 5:diamond: , 7:spade:
      Turn: ($4.22) 5:spade:
      River: ($4.22) K:diamond:


      Final Pot: $4.22

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, tens and fives (Tc Th)
      MP2 shows two pairs, kings and fives (Ac Kh)

      MP2 wins with two pairs, kings and fives (Ac Kh)

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      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:spade: , A:diamond: . Hero posts a blind of $0.06.
      UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, 2 folds, BB calls $0.12, UTG+2 calls $0.12, MP1 calls $0.12.

      Flop: ($0.68) Q:heart: , 6:diamond: , A:spade: (4 players)
      BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.32, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.72, Hero raises to $1.82 (All-In), MP1 calls $1.10.

      Turn: ($4.32) 3:club:
      River: ($4.32) 8:spade:


      Final Pot: $4.32

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ks Ad)
      MP1 shows three of a kind, sixes (6c 6s)

      MP1 wins with three of a kind, sixes (6c 6s)

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      UGH.
  • 3 replies
    • davidangel
      davidangel
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      Are you playing SSS?
      If so this is a good example of why you need to play SSS at NL10 minimum. You need to risk 20BB, but they dont let you buyin for .8 do they?
      The SHC, raise amounts, c-bets, ratio charts and style of play are all based on 20BB buyin. Without that you are risking extra stacks for nothing.
      In hand 1 you have risked a huge stack based on a ratio chart designed for a smaller stack. With .8 stack your ratio is 5:1, easy push (same odds to hit your set by the river). Here you are at 14:1 ratio, easy fold. You can expect to lose money continuing to play like this.
      Hand 2 is much of the same, basic SSS says to fold TT utg. Also basic SSS says you need under 4:1 chip ratio to shove a re-raise preflop. So the hand is fold or fold, regardless. You can expect to get beat making plays like this.
      Hand 3 is ok, problem is you have a bigger stack, giving your opponents bigger implied odds (less money now, for potential more money after flop). So you would need to adjust your preflop bet accordingly. Top pair-Top kicker in a 4 way pot is only a medium hand. In any case, if you are going to bet the flop, bet potsize or shove. You want all the draws out or drawing -EV.
      If someone has a cooler on you thats the way it goes. Do you really see any other plays you could have made where the guy with a set doesn't take your money? (besides a runner-runner suckout?)

      I suggest you reread the articles, play at NL10, post your hands in the correct forum (these are not suckouts, they are bad plays by you) and attend a coaching session.

      You are already a good poker player, Therk, and you have huge potential... like an uncut gem. Keep at it!
    • Therk
      Therk
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.04.2008 Posts: 47
      So many bad beats today..


      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9:spade: , Q:spade:
      Hero calls $0.04, BU folds, SB calls $0.02, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0.12) T:diamond: , J:heart: , 8:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($0.12) 3:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $0.09, Hero raises to $0.18, SB calls $0.18, BB raises to $0.63, Hero raises to $1.91 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $1.28.

      River: ($4.12) T:club:


      Final Pot: $4.12

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a straight, queen high (9s Qs)
      BB shows a full-house, threes full of tens (3c 3s)

      BB wins with a full-house, threes full of tens (3c 3s)

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      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:heart: , Q:club: . CO posts a blind of $0.06.
      MP3 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, CO calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.28) 2:spade: , J:club: , 5:club: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20.

      Turn: ($0.68) 8:club: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0.48, CO calls $0.48.

      River: ($1.64) 8:spade: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero raises $1.30 (All-In), CO raises to $1.20 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $4.14

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, queens and eights (Qh Qc)
      CO shows a flush, jack high (9c 7c)

      CO wins with a flush, jack high (9c 7c)

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      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:spade: , K:heart:
      CO calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.10, SB raises to $0.40, BB folds, CO calls $0.36, Hero raises to $2.12 (All-In), SB raises to $10.32 (All-In), CO raises to $0.78 (All-In).

      Flop: ($13.26) T:club: , A:spade: , 3:spade:
      Turn: ($13.26) Q:heart:
      River: ($13.26) 8:diamond:


      Final Pot: $13.26

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of kings (Ks Kh)
      CO shows a pair of tens (Td Jd)
      SB shows a pair of aces (Kd Ac)

      SB wins with a pair of aces (Kd Ac)

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      Just to name a few...
    • Semesa
      Semesa
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 294
      no offense, but you played every one of those hands(except the last one) extraordinarily badly no matter which strategy you play.


      SSS:
      hand 1: fold to 3 bet with JJ
      hand 2: fold preflop with TT, raise JJ+ AK
      hand 3: re-raising here is dangerous when overstacked. people would flat call with a pair/top pair. they would only be raising with overpair(impossible on this board) or better.
      hand 4: Q9s is a fold no matter where you are. do not call at all playing <nl50 SSS
      hand 5: 4x raise on the flop + 1 for every caller/blind(i.e. 5x in this case). 2.5x is not nearly enough. you should make a pot sized raise on the flop. anything less gives them odds to call with a flushdraw.
      hand 6: nothing you can do here. cold decks are a way of life

      BSS:
      hand 1: flat call a 3bet with JJ and bet out on the flop with overpair/trips. if 1 or 2 overcards come out play check/fold or bet depending on your reads.
      hand 2: DO NOT SHOVE TT PREFLOP WHEN PLAYING BSS. only AA KK is a shoveworthy hand.
      hand 3: an all in 3bet on the flop is NOT worth your entire stack playing BSS. you need trips or better to call an all in. i would even be folding an overpair here.
      hand 4: do NOT limp Q9s from CO. you either want to be raising to blindsteal or folding. if you are re-raised you should fold instantly. as played, 2/3 pot bet on the flop. a straight is not good enough to slowplay even on a rainbow board.
      hand 5: again, pot sized bet on the flop for protection against the flushdraw. you let him draw to his flush for cheap.
      hand 6: nothing you can do here.


      I suggest you re-read the articles. you should not be playing 2/4 SSS, and if you are BSSing you should be buying in for $5. not $2.

      sorry to say this, but you have basically done everything wrong so far EXCEPT your very last hand.