[NL2-NL10] KK vs JJ

    • zubrils2
      zubrils2
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 45
      ***** Hand History for Game 7422922096 *****
      $ 5 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 03, 04:18:21 ET 2008
      Table Table 129254 (Real Money)
      Seat 6 is the button
      Total number of players : 10
      Seat 2: nonexttime ( $ 6.47 USD )
      Seat 1: zubrils3 ( $ 5.21 USD )
      Seat 3: vrbo72 ( $ 6.12 USD )
      Seat 7: Zoltan70111 ( $ 5.49 USD )
      Seat 10: PokerAlf222 ( $ 5.94 USD )
      Seat 4: CBSITO17 ( $ 1.41 USD )
      Seat 5: haamukala ( $ 4.62 USD )
      Seat 8: Rossi4all ( $ 4.14 USD )
      Seat 9: Toivo32 ( $ 5.37 USD )
      Seat 6: chern_65 ( $ 5.39 USD )
      Zoltan70111 posts small blind [$ 0.02 USD].
      Rossi4all posts big blind [$ 0.04 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to zubrils3 [ Ks Kd ]
      >You have options at Table 126342 table.
      Toivo32 folds
      PokerAlf222 folds
      zubrils3 raises [$ 0.16 USD]
      nonexttime calls [$ 0.16 USD]
      CBSITO17 folds
      haamukala folds
      >You have options at Table 125457 table.
      >You have options at Table 126342 table.
      chern_65 raises [$ 0.28 USD]
      Zoltan70111 folds
      Rossi4all folds
      zubrils3 raises [$ 1.04 USD]
      nonexttime folds
      chern_65 calls [$ 0.92 USD]
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 9s, 6c ]
      zubrils3 bets [$ 2 USD]
      chern_65 calls [$ 2 USD]
      ** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
      zubrils3 bets [$ 2 USD]
      >You have options at Table 125457 table.
      chern_65 is all-In [$ 2.19 USD]
      zubrils3 is all-In [$ 0.01 USD]
      ** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
      zubrils3 shows [ Ks, Kd ]two pairs, Kings and Eights.
      chern_65 shows [ Jc, Jh ]a full house, Jacks full of Eights.
      chern_65 wins $ 0.18 USD from the side pot 1 with a full house, Jacks full of Eights.
      chern_65 wins $ 10.11 USD from the main pot with a full house, Jacks full of Eights.

      So I want to hear ur opinion about this hand. I think I did everything right because of my read. I was putting him on pp T-Q or AJs type of hand. Me and my friend disagreed about turn play.(he rarely folds underpair or overcards to contin. bet on the flop) Thank you for every opinion.
  • 5 replies
    • cannell555
      cannell555
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.03.2008 Posts: 2,410
      Hi zubrils2,

      I moved your thread to the hand evaluation forum. You will get more advice and professional help here.

      GoodLuck,
      Stiev
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      In my opinion you played it in good way. Quite many would fold JJ when faced with 4x 4bet. Flop was good for you, but opponent was very lucky to catch his 2 out at turn.

      You are already pot committed at turn, ~6$pot and you have only ~2$ left. Doesn't really matter what you do here, if opponent is front of you, he will bet and you can't fold... Still there is quite many hands behind you which will call your turn bet, TT, QQ, AJ, maybe flush draw + A.

      Simple and pure bad beat :)
    • zubrils2
      zubrils2
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 45
      ***** Hand History for Game 7423039644 *****
      $ 5 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 03, 05:50:37 ET 2008
      Table Table 125826 (Real Money)
      Seat 3 is the button
      Total number of players : 10
      Seat 1: rifleman123 ( $ 4.13 USD )
      Seat 7: M4yke88 ( $ 5.37 USD )
      Seat 8: parrotbay1 ( $ 14.57 USD )
      Seat 10: olomus ( $ 6.45 USD )
      Seat 9: zubrils3 ( $ 6.63 USD )
      Seat 6: DoubleAce422 ( $ 3.82 USD )
      Seat 5: Veikka6 ( $ 5.33 USD )
      Seat 3: aXXioto ( $ 5.11 USD )
      Seat 2: lvgaraislv ( $ 5.60 USD )
      Seat 4: walerian ( $ 2.98 USD )
      walerian posts small blind [$ 0.02 USD].
      Veikka6 posts big blind [$ 0.04 USD].
      ** Dealing down cards **
      Dealt to zubrils3 [ Qd Qc ]
      >You have options at Table 126048 table.
      DoubleAce422 calls [$ 0.04 USD]
      M4yke88 folds
      parrotbay1 folds
      zubrils3 raises [$ 0.20 USD]
      olomus folds
      rifleman123 folds
      >You have options at Table 126048 table.
      lvgaraislv folds
      aXXioto folds
      walerian folds
      >You have options at Table 126048 table.
      >You have options at Table 129268 table.
      Veikka6 folds
      DoubleAce422 calls [$ 0.16 USD]
      ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 9d, 2c ]
      >You have options at Table 126296 table.
      DoubleAce422 bets [$ 0.08 USD]
      zubrils3 raises [$ 0.37 USD]
      DoubleAce422 is all-In [$ 3.54 USD]
      zubrils3 folds
      DoubleAce422 does not show cards.
      DoubleAce422 wins $ 4.39 USD

      And we disagree again :) He thinks that I should've either just called flop raise or call push. I think in situations like this he has me beat and wants my call. AA or KK I call in situation like that.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      1) KK nice, hand, nothing to do here if oppoennt would call his 2 outer on the turn.
      2) Board is drawy. I believe that opponent may shove here with any straight/flushdraw, sometimes any pair, so I´d call here.
    • Simyo
      Simyo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.05.2008 Posts: 5
      1) We can count it cooler.
      2) Any stats? Without it is really hard to figure something out.



      And please convert your hands. It is really hard to read these historys without converting.