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[NL20-NL50] nl25 QQ

    • Paf4488
      Joined: 24.11.2007 Posts: 182
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
      The Official Hand History Converter

      UTG+2: $26.60
      MP1: $71.85
      Hero (MP2): $24.75
      CO: $13.25
      BTN: $24.10
      SB: $8.20
      BB: $18.40
      UTG: $25.00
      UTG+1: $28.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with Q :diamond: Q :heart:
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75, MP1 calls $1.50

      Flop: ($6.35) 4 :spade: 4 :diamond: T :spade: (3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $4.25, UTG+1 raises to $11.75, MP1 folds, Hero ?

      villaiun is 24/3/2
  • 3 replies
    • Grimzor
      Joined: 28.03.2008 Posts: 421
      I think i would go broke here. First i dont think UTG+1 played AA or KK this way although it is possible. He might have A4s or TT there too but that`s about all that beats us, its hard to imagine he could play 45s, 34s, or 64s or T4 from UTG. Other 4x hands make no sense imo.

      He could get crazy with some pairs under T, play like this with JJ, AT, flush draws. I dont like this spot as his line looks weird but strong imo as he checkraises in 2 opponents when you 3bet preflop. Although preflop action was weird because of that MP1 guy minraise after limper (wtf, how that donk got such stack?!?!). So i wouldnt be happy but i dont think i could fold this hand there. I would shove this with disgust and hope for best (and expect to be beat by TT quite often :/ ).
    • Kruppe
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,145
      I think UTG's preflop range is something like 99-QQ, sometimes KK,
      also AKs, AKo.

      On the flop I think he does this with TT-KK, AKss. If we decide not to fold we have to push against this range, and he will call with all of it, so I used pokerstove:

      Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

      13,860 games 0.016 secs 866,250 games/sec

      Board: Ts 4s 4d

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 49.210% 45.80% 03.41% 6348 472.50 { QdQh }
      Hand 1: 50.790% 47.38% 03.41% 6567 472.50 { KcKd, KcKs, KhKs, QQ-TT, AsKs }


      that would make it a clear push, which kind of surprises me.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Imo UTG has no reason to c/r player who has 3-bet pf and still shows a lot of strength on that board. He can´t expect that we fold JJ-AA, so his hand range has to be stronger. That makes it easy fold to me, since he´ll show up a lot TT or 4x, sometimes KK, AA.