gambling gone bad... not

    • teslasecretweapon
      teslasecretweapon
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      Felt like gambling tonight,
      played some shortstacked kinda SSS on NL1K, but prety loose, so it wasnt mush of a SSS :D .
      Doubled up, lost it to a another advanced SSS player regular on this limit :D , than
      doubled through the same player that I doubled first time
      and just when I wanted to end this gambling crusade :D comes another "playable" hand- at least for midlestaked donk that I was at the time.
      I raised 66 and was called by the same guy that called me 2 times before when I doubled up- he was prety loose forcing a lot of coin flips with his full stack eaven against other fullstacks
      This post shouldnt be in this part of the forum, anyway, becouse it wasnt a result of some great play, more out of BRm gambling, but I felt like sharing. (actualy braging :D )

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $10.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop | saw showdown

      BB ($617)
      Hero (UTG+1) ($497)
      MP1 ($985)
      MP2 ($1949.70)
      MP3 ($1117)
      CO ($946.75)
      Button ($1027)
      SB ($1586.75)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6, 6
      Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, MP2 calls $40, 5 folds

      Flop: ($105) 9, 4, A (2 players)
      Hero bets $40, MP2 calls $40

      Turn: ($185) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $77, MP2 calls $77

      River: ($339) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $340 (All-In), MP2 calls $340

      Total pot: $1019 | Rake: $3
      Main pot: $1019 between Hero and MP2, won by Hero

      Results in white below:
      Hero had 6, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
      MP2 had J, A (one pair, Aces).
      Outcome: Hero won $1021


      Obviosly I played this hand prety donkish raising 66 OOP, beting 2 times Ace high flush board, and finaly hitting my 2 outer.
      I'll thought of it as a lucky comeback from former downswing and I wont do it again.
  • 17 replies
    • JayRichh1
      JayRichh1
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      lol obviously the poker gods felt they would spare you. Usually that 6 on the river is the final ingredient in disaster, you push and buddy insta calls with his KQ hearts hahahaha. Just outta curiosity what are your normal limits? Either way very nice win, and best of luck in the future :)
    • teslasecretweapon
      teslasecretweapon
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      I usually play NL200 SSS.
      And some NL1000 when I want to put my bankroll in jepardy :D
    • cannell555
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      hi teslasecretweapon,

      I dont see this as a brag tbh. I see someone playing like a complete donk. What exactly are you bragging about? The fact that you cant follow strict rules?

      Following strict rules is the key to success.

      regards,
      Stiev
    • Snodreliss
      Snodreliss
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      I liked your line ^^,
    • teslasecretweapon
      teslasecretweapon
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      How do you measure success in NL cash game chanell?
      By money won, I'd say, so this is success (other thing is that it isnt sustaneable and the fact is that I would go broke if I play like this very quickly).
      I never said this was a great play, actually I said exactly the oposit- that is played wrong but lucky.
      I agree that poker is about very stricked rules.
      So chanell, thanks for explaining to everyone this hand wasnt played corectly.
    • cannell555
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      Hi,

      You measure your success with your winrate, not by money won. If you knew this hand was played bad, then why play like that? Why make decisions that put your roll at risk?

      You show your inexperiance by playing like this, and you show it more by posting such a hand.

      Btw, my name is cannell ;)

      Regards,
      Stiev
    • teslasecretweapon
      teslasecretweapon
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      ok cannell u r right
    • Voetsel
      Voetsel
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      Originally posted by cannell555
      Hi,

      You measure your success with your winrate, not by money won. If you knew this hand was played bad, then why play like that? Why make decisions that put your roll at risk?

      You show your inexperiance by playing like this, and you show it more by posting such a hand.

      Btw, my name is cannell ;)

      Regards,
      Stiev
      The word is inexperience.

      Come on man, I understand you're a mod and have to make people follow the Bankroll Management, but let this guy have his fun once in a while and post a fun hand if he feels like it. No need to come in here and tell him everything he does is wrong.
    • xxxdannyxxx
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      he said he played it wrong and the title says gambling.so i figure he played it very risky like a gamble
      i dont think he is very inexperienced if he plays nl200
    • cannell555
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      Hi guys,

      Just because i'm a moderator, I dont have to tell people to play by brm. My job is to answer questions, and to delete all unwanted threads and posts.

      This hand is on NL1000, and the guy has half a stack. He then plays his hand awfully, and gets lucky. Then he posts it on the forums to show people he's a gambler, and that he pays no attention to the articles. IMO, the whole thing shouts out inexperiance.

      Also, just because a guy plays NL200, it doesn't mean he's experianced at all.

      If anyone can explain why my comments are wrong, inaccurate or out of line, please do so.

      Poker is about having an edge, and playing like this is played will loose you a shed load and fast.

      Regards,
      Stiev
    • gggeorgio
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      I just want to say that I agree with you cannell.

      With a past bankroll I did things like this from time to time. Yes sometimes it worked out well, but in the end it slowed my progress down a lot!

      I do understand that you were gambling tesla, and that just because you do this sometimes doesn't mean you're a bad player (as long as you do it very infrequently). You might be a great winning player that just enjoys to gamble from time to time, and there's nothing extremely wrong with that. It's just that in the long run gambling isn't profitable, and will therefore slow your progression through the limits.

      It's not a poker accomplishment, so doesn't really merit any congratulations. It's no different than if I posted a thread bragging that I won 1000$ playing roulette in a casino.

      All the same, GL at the tables :)
    • One12ver
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      Well, interesting hand and post.

      I think the hand was badly played by both post flop, but I am a FL player, so what do I know! Normally when one is calling in FL with a flop like this then he usualy has something, so I would have have bet once then check it down or fold.
      I think that if he wanted to post this hand and people comment on it then he and every one else has the right to do this, BUT not in the "our successes" area. Can enyone tell me where the success is in this hand other than winning, by using PokerStrategy material?
    • Voetsel
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      I respectfully disagree. I play 100% strict bankroll management but there's nothing wrong with playing a game out of your league once in a while, just for fun. If you don't mind grinding it up again, you can go gambling once in a while. To keep the fun in Poker. Of course, the hand is played terribly and he shouldn't really be playing these limits, but let him have his fun without having to bash him in the ground, that's all I'm saying. No disrespect whatsoever intended to anyone.
    • cannell555
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      Originally posted by Voetsel
      I respectfully disagree. I play 100% strict bankroll management but there's nothing wrong with playing a game out of your league once in a while, just for fun. If you don't mind grinding it up again, you can go gambling once in a while. To keep the fun in Poker. Of course, the hand is played terribly and he shouldn't really be playing these limits, but let him have his fun without having to bash him in the ground, that's all I'm saying. No disrespect whatsoever intended to anyone.
      Hi,

      I really dont understand why people make such bad long term decisions. Everyone is entitled to take their whole roll to one table if they like. All i'm pointing out is that you need to be strict with certain rules, in order to be the most profitable. So anything else is a total waste of time. Look at the most successful players on this site, and then re-evaluate!

      Why do you get more fun out of playing like a donkey and out of BRM? If you dont enjoy grinding and playing well at your home limit, then why bother with poker?

      Good Luck,
      Stiev
    • xylere
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      no matter how you play poker - its gambling) betting on random outcomes is what called gambling) PS teaches you have to do it strategically)

      what I don't understand is how -ev decisions can bring more fun then +ev ones)

      and its not just a waste of money, its a waste of time invested in bankroll building)
      Its up to you, of course, what to do with your bankroll. But if you are taking risks, make it smart...
    • 1seednoir1
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      [quote]Originally posted by cannell555
      Originally posted by Voetsel

      Why do you get more fun out of playing like a donkey and out of BRM? If you dont enjoy grinding and playing well at your home limit, then why bother with poker?

      Good Luck,
      Stiev
      #2
      yep yep...
      nuff said... :)
    • TTT241
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      Well yeasterday I belive that in like 90% of the time I was busted from SNG where I have dominated hand.

      I was able only won hand when I was dominated. In yeasterday's tournament I shove my quite few chips on shortstack push. We were called by big stack. We both showed AJ, he showed AT, he kicked our butts ;)

      Today my friend reported that he was pushed from SB and he shove his KK. Guy showed 52 with flop 52x ;) .

      So we came to conclusion that we are pushing 72 preferably :evil: .

      TTT