poker ninja Gonchan again

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Hello guys

      I'm Gonchan from JP community and now I back to boot camp.


      - What do you play?
      I mainly played MSS 50NL~100NL

      - Poker history?
      I started poker seriusly at May last year and grind 25NL MSS to 100NL.
      Now I backed to BSS then practicing at 20~25NL

      - Goals and aspirations for poker?
      Making poker stable job for me,want to connect another e-game to poker(I like both),have a concrete logic at poker and use it for real life.

      - What do you sturggle with?
      I was undecided at dicision making at poker.

      I know and heard 100 times that decision is much important than result.

      However, I doubt my dicision after continuous bad result.

      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $20 (100 bb)
      SB: $43.59 (218 bb)
      Hero (BB): $23.09 (115.5 bb)
      UTG: $15.76 (78.8 bb)
      MP: $21.45 (107.2 bb)
      CO: $14.05 (70.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 4
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.10) A 3 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $1.30

      Turn: ($5.10) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.60, BTN calls $3.60

      River: ($12.30) 2 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8, BTN raises to $13.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.90

      Results:
      $40.10 pot ($2.00 rake)
      Final Board: A 3 2 Q 2
      BTN showed 2 3 and won $38.10 ($18.10 net)
      Hero mucked 5 4 and lost (-$20 net)


      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $21.16 (105.8 bb)
      SB: $26.77 (133.9 bb)
      BB: $15.25 (76.3 bb)
      UTG: $20 (100 bb)
      MP: $29.75 (148.8 bb)
      Hero (CO): $29.57 (147.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
      UTG raises to $0.60, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 3 folds, UTG calls $1

      Flop: ($3.50) K 4 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $2.20, UTG raises to $7.40, Hero raises to $27.97 and is all-in, UTG calls $11.00 and is all-in

      Turn: ($40.30) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($40.30) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      $40.30 pot ($2.01 rake)
      Final Board: K 4 5 3 T
      UTG showed K Q and won $38.29 ($18.29 net)
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$20 net)


      IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP: $27.82 (139.1 bb)
      CO: $43.42 (217.1 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $25.92 (129.6 bb)
      SB: $20.29 (101.4 bb)
      BB: $37.57 (187.9 bb)
      UTG: $18.70 (93.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
      UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.40, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.90

      Flop: ($3.10) 6 7 T (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.86, UTG calls $1.86

      Turn: ($6.82) 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $4.40, UTG raises to $15.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.04

      River: ($37.70) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $37.70 pot ($1.88 rake)
      Final Board: 6 7 T 5 T
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$18.70 net)
      UTG showed 6 6 and won $35.82 ($17.12 net)


      I know the reason why 77 KQs call 3b UTG and bot 2 pair call twice was bad
      However, villain often made hand such a way and my ev is -.

      This have continued 2~3 month and my energy is wasted for thinking about result and poker room cheat..

      So I want to know the way to re-concentrate.


      - What do you want to get out of the bootcamp?
      Comparing my habit to very good player and fix my leak.

      Moreover, I want to know the good poker player habit.
  • 9 replies
    • Schnitzelfisch
      Schnitzelfisch
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.11.2008 Posts: 4,952
      Hi Gonchan,

      I'll be helping you out in this Boot Camp with topics like procrastination, motivation, laziness, productivity, focus while playing, putting in more volume/studying, creating habits that stick, etc.

      Could you please tell me:

      1) What is your #1 issue in those areas
      2) What did you try so far to resolve it?
      3) What worked and what didn't?

      Thank you,

      -Primoz
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
      Global
      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Hey Gonchan!

      Welcome back to the Bootcamp! :)

      How are you doing with tilt and mindset these days?

      When it comes to the statement only decisions matter. After running so bad do you begin to question it? We all do eventually :)
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Primoz

      Hello again, about mental,

      1
      I want to know how to resolve my sad feeling about poker, I'm feeling I encountered many hand which I can point out why villian's action was bad. However, many case he won and my ev became -(river draw complete so my equity is -100BBor 40BB even previous bad action) so I now wasting my energy to think about result and poker room cheat..

      2
      I was trying to convince myself that decision was important so result isn't important. However, continuing bad beat made me very sad(even it is better than past days.)

      3
      Hmm, I didn't take the way to resolve it aggressively.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Eric

      Hello again,

      I know decision only matters logically, but I also think my practice is in vain if my hand is crushed 60% of time when I have 75% equity many times..

      So I also want to know how to keep motivation through these bad beats..
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
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      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Ok you know it logically and you know it shouldn't affect you but it still does. So what do you think the issue is? Just wanna see what your perspective on it. :)
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      The issue is I'm wasting my energy what I can't deal with( even poker room is cheating, it will be shown as variance.. If so, my angry means nothing for improve)
    • ErikStenqvist
      ErikStenqvist
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      Joined: 14.01.2013 Posts: 431
      Originally posted by Gonchan
      The issue is I'm wasting my energy what I can't deal with( even poker room is cheating, it will be shown as variance.. If so, my angry means nothing for improve)
      When you get as affected as you do by the results it's usually comes from a few different things. Let's see if anything is going on in these areas. :)

      Is there a lot of pressure on you to make money from poker?
      Are you studying and learning the game regularly every week?
      How often are you checking your results when you are playing?
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      1 Is there a lot of pressure on you to make money from poker?

      very heavily, I want to make living with it.

      2 Are you studying and learning the game regularly every week?

      I only post hand evaluation thread per session.

      About video and database analysys, I didn't do this weekly.
      I don't like making effort like whatever I can 24 hours,while I like making effort when I know what is difference between me and good player and how much I should do for it.

      3 How often are you checking your results when you are playing?

      I am trying not to check my BR during session, but I sometimes see my br twice per 1 session.

      Moreover, I often remember my bad beat so I can roughly know result even without checking it.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      I'm now considering what is "continous" learning.

      I don't think I should study poker 24h, so I want to know how much famous coach do.

      If I have same knowledge and some action, I can get same result, right?