Can Someone Help me out

    • philiveyfan
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      I'm a bit confused with this hand if someone can help me out

      hand 1 is 3344 and hand 2 is 10 9 8 7

      flop is 55662

      Now my question is this why is it the first hand wins with 66445, doesn't the flop counter fit the hand 1. I'm a bit confused if someone can give me the right answer to my question I really appreciate it
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    • philiveyfan
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      anyone?
    • CrazedTulip
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      you use 2 cards from hand and 3 from board, so the first hand is not 66445 but 23456 which makes a straight, second hand finished with just open ended straight draw :)
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by CrazedTulip
      you use 2 cards from hand and 3 from board, so the first hand is not 66445 but 23456 which makes a straight, second hand finished with just open ended straight draw :)
      so say first hand is 33442 second hand is 10987

      flop is 5566A wouldn't that counterfit hand one and second hand wins? i'm a bit confused
    • Alan883
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      Hey philiveyfan,

      every player must use exactly 2 of his 4 holecards and exactly 3 of the community cards. No more, no less!

      For more info please check Rules of PL Omaha
    • Alan883
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      so say first hand is 3344 2 second hand is 10987

      flop is 5566A wouldn't that counterfit hand one and second hand wins? i'm a bit confused


      I don't think so.

      The best possible hand you can make from hand one is A6644 (two pair)

      From the second hand you can make A66T9(one pair). So i think also here hand 1 wins.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      so say first hand is 3344 2 second hand is 10987

      flop is 5566A wouldn't that counterfit hand one and second hand wins? i'm a bit confused


      I don't think so.

      The best possible hand you can make from hand one is A6644 (two pair)

      From the second hand you can make A66T9(one pair). So i think also here hand 1 wins.
      ok thanks another question I want to know, so are you saying that in Omaha there is no counterfits or is there?
    • Glopslart
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      No, NOBODY can help you out.

      We must address the fundamentals here. If you are even thinking of playing Omaha, you are too far gone for any human assistance.
    • philiveyfan
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      I want to know can hands be counter fit in Omaha or no
    • Alan883
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      If i understand the term counterfeit correctly then it can happen also in OMAHA.

      Lets say you have 2345

      And board comes 237QQ.

      Now your hand is 335QQ. Does that example answer your question?

      It is not like in holdem where if the board is TJQKA the result is tie.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      If i understand the term counterfeit correctly then it can happen also in OMAHA.

      Lets say you have 2345

      And board comes 237QQ.

      Now your hand is 335QQ. Does that example answer your question?
      Not really ok heres an example

      My hand is 4433 your hand is 10987

      flop is 5566A now my question is wouldnt hand one be counter fit,wouldn't i be playing the board. i just don't understand why the best hand would be 6644a, if you can kinda explain the hands I put up thanks
    • Alan883
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      Because you always have to use two cards from your hole cards. Not less and not more and exactly 3 community cards.

      Flop is: 5566A Our hand is 4433

      So we have to use exactly 2 our cards and three community cards.

      Community cards: A66 Our cards: 44 Combination: A6644 (two pair)

      Flop is: 5566A Our hand is T987

      Community cards: A66 Our cards: T9 Combination: A66T9 (one pair)

      Is that now clear? If not just ask us again. We are glad to assist you.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      Because you always have to use two cards from your hole cards. Not less and not more and exactly 3 community cards.

      Flop is: 5566A Our hand is 4433

      So we have to use exactly 2 our cards and three community cards.

      Community cards: A66 Our cards: 44 Combination: A6644 (two pair)

      Flop is: 5566A Our hand is T987

      Community cards: A66 Our cards: T9 Combination: A66T9 (one pair)

      Is that now clear? If not just ask us again. We are glad to assist you.
      so no matter what always use 2 from your hand and 3 on the board, also do you know if there are any omaha poker calculators this way i can get more assistance on hands
    • Alan883
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      so no matter what always use 2 from your hand and 3 on the board, also do you know if there are any omaha poker calculators this way i can get more assistance on hands


      Exactly.

      I don't know if there is any tool to help you with that. I hope someone else can help you with that. Just a little practice and you will know exactly what your combination is in notime.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      so no matter what always use 2 from your hand and 3 on the board, also do you know if there are any omaha poker calculators this way i can get more assistance on hands


      Exactly.

      I don't know if there is any tool to help you with that. I hope someone else can help you with that. Just a little practice and you will know exactly what your combination is in notime.
      thanks buddy
    • Alan883
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      You welcome mate.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      You welcome mate.
      Hey I got another question, I have a 200 dollar bankroll my dream is to turn it into 20k or even more, what level sngs should I be playing, what I mean by level is amount of money I should be playing
    • Alan883
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      I would definitely recommend you to start with 1$ sngs and go up step by step. It is not worth to start higher if you are not experienced and well skilled player.
    • philiveyfan
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      I would definitely recommend you to start with 1$ sngs and go up step by step. It is not worth to start higher if you are not experienced and well skilled player.
      Thats what i was thinking too but let me ask u something when do I go up in steps to play higher, how much should I make before I can start playing 3.50 sngs?
    • Alan883
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      I think you will do fine with 100BI BRM. For MTTS even more is recommended but for SNGs 100BI would do the job.

      Here is the text form our strategy article

      Bankroll Management

      One last thing you should know is called bankroll management. You should think of an appropriate amount of money that you are willing to invest in poker. This is your bankroll.

      In order to protect your investment and ensure that you have a long lasting and successful poker career, you shouldn't invest more than 1-2% of your bankroll in one SNG, which means that you need to have at least 50-100 buy-ins. Remember that this rule is not carved in stone, as the proper bankroll management strategy depends on numerous factors, like the buy-in level, tournament speed (regular/turbo/hyperturbo), number of participants or a payout structure.

      A loose bankroll management allows you to move up quicker while having the risk that you have to move down earlier after a bad run. Contrary, with going on the safe side and having more buy-ins, you will move up slower but have less risk to move down in stakes. Ultimately it is your own decision.
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