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Few questions about Ranges from strategy articles

    • tatartom
      tatartom
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      Hi,

      I have few questions:

      1. SB Range against a 3-bet from the big blind is designed for what % of 3bet?

      2. Why defend ranges against 3bet from blinds is wider on UTG than MP ?
  • 3 replies
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Hi,
      1.
      When I read this, I assumed that ranges given for "versus BB 3Bet" would be :
      3-Bet/Fold:
      K6s-K2s, Q6s-Q2s, A6o-A2o, K7o-K6o, Q7o-Q6o (11%, #148)

      3-Bet/Call:
      AdAh, AdAs, AhAs, AdAc, AhAc, KhKs, KhKc, KsKc, AK, QQ-TT (32%, #42)

      These are the ranges given in the strategy article BB Pre-flop Ranges

      From that article, BB is folding 51%, calling 34% and 3Betting the rest.
      So I'm guessing that the ranges given for SB are against this 15% 3Betting range. Note that this is 15% vs SB not 15% overall.

      I'm hoping someone with a deeper understanding of this posts a reply.
      The above is just how I interpreted it.

      2.
      MP Defending Range:
      Call:
      AsAc, KdKh, KdKs, KdKc, AhKd, AsKd, AsKh, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, QQ-TT, AQs+, KQs (#40)

      4-Bet/Fold:
      AQo, KQo, (#24)

      4-Bet/Call:
      AdAh, AdAs, AhAs, AdAc, AhAc, KhKs, KhKc, KsKc, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKs, AhKc, AsKc (#14)


      UTG Defending ranges
      Call:
      AsAc, KdKh, KdKs, KdKc, QQ-JJ, AQs+, AKo (#36)

      4-Bet/Fold:
      AQo (#12)

      4-Bet/Call:
      AdAh, AdAs, AhAs, AdAc, AhAc, KhKs, KhKc, KsKc (#8)

      From that it looks to me that the UTG defending ranges are NARROWER than the MP defending ranges.

      I think that this makes sense, since SB 3Betting vs UTG would be a stronger range than SBs 3Bet range vs MP.

      I did not write the original strategy articles though, so I cannot be certain.


      Cheers,
      --VS
    • tatartom
      tatartom
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      Joined: 03.11.2010 Posts: 880
      1.
      Ok Thanks, I should deduce the same

      2.
      Yes, vs SB you have a right,
      but UTG vs BB:
      Defending range: TT+, AQs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, AQo+ (#74)

      MP vs BB
      Defending-Range: TT+, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AKo (#58)

      I think this is a mistake in article.
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      OK, thanks...

      I'll bring it to the attention of the content people.

      --VS