[Application] Longterm cash PLO8 vol. 2

    • Thorek
      Thorek
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      I have read and accepted the staking rules. By posting in this thread, every member acknowledges the same.
      #2013-046


      Hi.

      I'm in 70% of first cash longterm staking on PLO8. I don't want to have big break in my play, that's why I'm making offer before 1st staking is ended. All from 1st staking have a reservation, but this package is more expensive, so maybe someone won't decide to continue, that's why u can make reservations.

      My lifetime PLO8/NLO8 graph in BB (5 $ - 200 $)


      Graph from last staking, which is still in play:


      • Stakes: PLO8 20 $/€/₤ - 200 $/€/₤ (iPoker); PLO8/NLO8 50 $ - 200 $ on PokerStars*
      • To 1st of may (minimum 50 000 hands)
      • Profit 50/50
      • Rakeback 50/50
      • Gemstones, PokerStrategy promotions etc. don't go to rakeback
      • Bankroll - 7000 $
      • U can send money to neteller (thoro@toya.net.pl) or PokerStars: Thorek


      Bankroll managment:
      • If I fell under 4000 $, I won't play PLO8$200 tables. Back to PLO8$200 tables with roll 5500 $
      • With 10 000 $ in bankroll I add PLO8$400 tables. If I fell to 7000 $ I remove them from schedule


      Package 7000 $:
      2,5% - 175 $
      5% - 350 $
      10% - 700 $

      (*) 1st staking was on iPoker only. I can add PokerStars table to make better volume, since on iPoker sometimes have to play only 2 tables. I play max 6 tables (winrate>volume). The point is, I can't add rakeback from PokerStars, because it is too hard to count it, since I play there also tournaments and sometimes zoom tables, which won't be include in staking.

      So the question is: do you want me to add PokerStars tables to sessions?
      _____________________________
      Investors [100/100]:
      tommygecko - 7,5% :f_cool:
      ColorFlusher - 10% :f_cool:
      maritsula - 30% :f_cool:
      RasTweet - 2,5% :f_cool:
      akrammon - 35% :f_cool:
      biogas - 5% :f_cool:
      NIVEKii - 2,5% :f_cool:
      pulcipet - 7,5% :f_cool:
  • 42 replies
    • pucilpet
      pucilpet
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      Joined: 09.03.2009 Posts: 694
      I'm in for at least 7,5%, maybe more if someone backs out.

      I don't know about P*, shall wait what other stakers have to say about it. :)
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 9,212
      Originally posted by Thorek
      I have read and accepted the staking rules. By posting in this thread, every member acknowledges the same.
      #2013-046


      Hi.

      I'm in 70% of first cash longterm staking on PLO8. I don't want to have big break in my play, that's why I'm making offer before 1st staking is ended. All from 1st staking have a reservation, but this package is more expensive, so maybe someone won't decide to continue, that's why u can make reservations.

      My lifetime PLO8/NLO8 graph in BB (5 $ - 200 $)


      Graph from last staking, which is still in play:


      • Stakes: PLO8 20 $/€/₤ - 200 $/€/₤ (iPoker); PLO8/NLO8 50 $ - 200 $ on PokerStars*
      • To 1st of may (minimum 50 000 hands)
      • Profit 50/50
      • Rakeback 50/50
      • Gemstones, PokerStrategy promotions etc. don't go to rakeback
      • Bankroll - 7000 $
      • U can send money to neteller (thoro@toya.net.pl) or PokerStars: Thorek


      Bankroll managment:
      • If I fell under 4000 $, I won't play PLO8$200 tables. Back to PLO8$200 tables with roll 5500 $
      • With 10 000 $ in bankroll I add PLO8$400 tables. If I fell to 7000 $ I remove them from schedule


      Package 7000 $:
      2,5% - 175 $
      5% - 350 $
      10% - 700 $

      (*) 1st staking was on iPoker only. I can add PokerStars table to make better volume, since on iPoker sometimes have to play only 2 tables. I play max 6 tables (winrate>volume). The point is, I can't add rakeback from PokerStars, because it is too hard to count it, since I play there also tournaments and sometimes zoom tables, which won't be include in staking.

      So the question is: do you want me to add PokerStars tables to sessions?
      _____________________________
      Investors [100/100]:
      tommygecko - 5% :f_confused:
      Turuntor - 10% :f_confused:
      ColorFlusher - 10% :f_confused:
      maritsula - 30% :f_confused:
      RasTweet - 2,5% :f_confused:
      akrammon - 10% :f_confused:
      biogas - 10% :f_confused:
      NIVEKii - 5% :f_confused:
      NightFrostaSS - 10% :f_confused:
      pulcipet - 7,5% :f_confused:
      Quoted for reference.

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      Please note that the rules have been updated.
      Please review. Your feedback would be appreciated.

      Best of luck!
      --VS
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Hi Thorek,
      Since this is a longterm application, and the previous volume is still running, can you please provide the proposed end date of the first stake, and the start date of the new stake.

      Also, am I correct that this is the previous long-term stake?
      Longterm cash PLO8 (iPoker) [SOLD]

      Thanks,
      --VS
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Is stars much harder to beat than ipoker? U seem like crushing ipoker like a boss :D
    • biogas
      biogas
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      Joined: 22.07.2010 Posts: 413
      Roll over my 350$ from previous stake, that makes 5%.
    • ColorFlusher
      ColorFlusher
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      Joined: 19.01.2008 Posts: 843
      7k bankroll for the stake seems unnecessarily high considering your play style and the fact your average buy in will most likely stay close to 100. I would suggest reducing the br for 5k, moving down to $100 with 2k, going higher with 8k.

      I would like to keep my 10% share of the deal, but only in case other backers aren't against it, as we might end up playing in the same $50 tables at stars. Personally I don't see any pros or cons there for either of us.
    • akrammon
      akrammon
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      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 3,142
      Is this all reserved already?

      Reserve me everything that isn't, or everything that will ever become available muhahahaha
    • akrammon
      akrammon
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      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 3,142
      aaand I vote for no stars tables.
    • oskrgy
      oskrgy
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      Joined: 14.04.2008 Posts: 549
      if theres anything left please reserve 10%
    • pucilpet
      pucilpet
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      Joined: 09.03.2009 Posts: 694
      Originally posted by ColorFlusher

      I would like to keep my 10% share of the deal, but only in case other backers aren't against it, as we might end up playing in the same $50 tables at stars. Personally I don't see any pros or cons there for either of us.
      If this is the case I think it would be best for Thorek to stay out of Pokerstars then.

      Edit: And I will take up to 20% if more comes available.
    • Thorek
      Thorek
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      Joined: 25.12.2007 Posts: 59,761
      Originally posted by tommygecko
      Is stars much harder to beat than ipoker? U seem like crushing ipoker like a boss :D
      It looks like this. On iPoker I have 1 or 2 regulars per table on P* there is 2-3 regulars per table. I saw some players from iPoker playing also on P*. Yesterday played short session on PLO8$200 on P* and there suprising low level of players - that's maybe because of milestones?

      7k bankroll for the stake seems unnecessarily high considering your play style and the fact your average buy in will most likely stay close to 100. I would suggest reducing the br for 5k, moving down to $100 with 2k, going higher with 8k.
      5000 $ is actually too less. I don't have big swings, but yesterday was -5 BI in session. I play all $/€/₤ tables, so PLO8₤200 = PLO8$350 $. Avg. I count it as 300 $, so it's 23 BI. Let say I can reduce it to 6000 $.

      Hi Thorek,
      Since this is a longterm application, and the previous volume is still running, can you please provide the proposed end date of the first stake, and the start date of the new stake.

      Also, am I correct that this is the previous long-term stake?
      Longterm cash PLO8 (iPoker) [SOLD]
      I think 1st staking will end max on 10th of January. And I will start new one next day.

      if theres anything left please reserve 10%
      I guess there won't be anything free, since some of investors want incrase their %.
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Increase to 7.5% too if someone backs out
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      I'll have to pass this one, so my part is up for grabs
    • maritsula
      maritsula
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      Joined: 19.12.2011 Posts: 905
      reserve my part (30%) for now
    • RasTweet
      RasTweet
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      Joined: 26.12.2009 Posts: 4,553
      Roll over and I'll send you the extra it's going to cost.

      I trust your opinion on wether it better/worse to play on stars or not.
    • RasTweet
      RasTweet
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      Joined: 26.12.2009 Posts: 4,553
      Originally posted by RasTweet
      Roll over and I'll send you the extra it's going to cost.

      I trust your opinion on wether it better/worse to play on stars or not.
      Money is sent GLGLGL
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      sent 7.5%!

      edit: rejected as it's from a recent deposit, will send asap

      edit: sent
    • makinazero
      makinazero
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      Joined: 02.09.2008 Posts: 4,440
      can i take 2.5%

      i send the money when u finhish the sell.

      ok?

      thanks
      makina
    • Thorek
      Thorek
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      Joined: 25.12.2007 Posts: 59,761
      Originally posted by makinazero
      can i take 2.5%

      i send the money when u finhish the sell.

      ok?

      thanks
      makina
      Sorry there's no % left :(