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[NL2-NL10] NL JJ reraise / call

    • erptech
      Joined: 15.03.2008 Posts: 659
      they seemed to have very strong hands, i put at least one of them on high pp

      Known players:

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J:club: , J:heart:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0,50, Hero raises to $2,50, 2 folds, SB raises to $7,50, BB calls $7,00, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $10,95 (All-In), SB calls $3,45, BB calls $3,45.

      Flop: ($33,35) A:club: , T:diamond: , 8:spade: (2 players)

      SB checks, BB bets $21,50, SB raises to $60,35 (All-In), BB calls $28,55, SB gets uncalled bet back..

      Turn: ($133,45) 8:diamond:
      River: ($133,45) 6:heart:

      Final Pot: $133,45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, jacks and eights (Jc Jh)
      BB shows two pairs, aces and eights (Kd Ah)
      SB shows two pairs, aces and eights (Kh Ad)

      BB wins with two pairs, aces and eights (Kd Ah)
      SB wins with two pairs, aces and eights (Kh Ad)
  • 4 replies
    • allizdoR
      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 4,568
      if both players a bit thinking, i would fold.
      I give some one AK and the other one a higher Pocket then yours.
      Iam not believe in AK and TT (where we have 44% EQ)

      against QQ+ and AK we only have 18% EQ (need 33% three way)
    • Gerv
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      I see BB as a calling station so he creates dead money.

      Well with Jacks, I think you can push here due BB's stats/dead money
      $22.4 / $8.45
      = 27% you need

      I think its marginal but it can be pushed.
      Folding is also okay but then pay attention to their holecards when they go to the Showdown.

      - Gerv
    • allizdoR
      Joined: 02.01.2007 Posts: 4,568
      i get a bit different eq we need then you. (33% was just for simplification of course we need less)

      but i didnt think bb creates dead money. when he calls the sd he also calls your push. i think someone is trapping you.
      sb could directly 3-bet 11$ so you would be ai, but with his smaller bet you have to push and then he could 5-bet.
      the bb could also have a monster smaller hands he would fold or sometimes 4-bet against sb.

      give both a range and then we will see we cant call.
    • ysessa
      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 1,331
      I dont like to get into these spots with JJ, we are hoping for a flip. I wouldn't call the BB dead money he can also easily have QQ+ so a fold here is safe you have a good remaining stack, pot odds are not that great etc.