Can I trust full tilt anymore? All from one session

    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Yes, before you guys say it, there's some bad play. But it's some really narrow ranges villains are representing in these hands. It's crazy how full tilt dish out such action flops/turns and rivers. I'm really getting sick of it. Been only playing for a week and I've seen enough. Stars without fdb is so much better than this shit. only playing ft for the fdb and im thinking of forfeiting it. Whenever i hit set in 3bet pot i bet they call with oesd they hit turn all the time. when i have wrap + FD i miss all the time. of course

      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP: $16.46 (65.8 bb)
      CO: $69.99 (280 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $38.48 (153.9 bb)
      SB: $19.85 (79.4 bb)
      BB: $18.30 (73.2 bb)
      UTG: $52.25 (209 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K T A
      UTG raises to $0.85, MP folds, CO calls $0.85, Hero raises to $3.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.90, CO calls $2.90

      Flop: ($11.60) 4 J 3 (3 players)
      UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($11.60) A (3 players)
      UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $8.25, UTG folds, CO calls $8.25

      River: ($28.10) 6 (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $26.48, CO calls $26.48

      Results:
      $81.06 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 4 J 3 A 6
      CO showed K 6 5 7 and won $78.06 ($39.58 net)
      Hero showed A K T A and lost (-$38.48 net)


      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $52.61 (210.4 bb)
      BTN: $17.77 (71.1 bb)
      SB: $62.73 (250.9 bb)
      BB: $20.10 (80.4 bb)
      MP: $14.16 (56.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 9 9 Q
      MP folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN raises to $1.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.35

      Flop: ($4.05) K 7 J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $4.05, Hero raises to $16.20, BTN calls $11.87 and is all-in

      Turn: ($35.89) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($35.89) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $35.89 pot ($1.79 rake)
      Final Board: K 7 J T J
      Hero showed 7 9 9 Q and lost (-$17.77 net)
      BTN showed 4 5 J T and won $34.10 ($16.33 net)
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    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (CO): $52.61 (210.4 bb)
      BTN: $17.77 (71.1 bb)
      SB: $62.73 (250.9 bb)
      BB: $20.10 (80.4 bb)
      MP: $14.16 (56.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 9 9 Q
      MP folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN raises to $1.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.35

      Flop: ($4.05) K 7 J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $4.05, Hero raises to $16.20, BTN calls $11.87 and is all-in

      Turn: ($35.89) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($35.89) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $35.89 pot ($1.79 rake)
      Final Board: K 7 J T J
      Hero showed 7 9 9 Q and lost (-$17.77 net)
      BTN showed 4 5 J T and won $34.10 ($16.33 net)



      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $32.57 (130.3 bb)
      SB: $95.58 (382.3 bb)
      BB: $27.81 (111.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): $25.86 (103.4 bb)
      CO: $58.13 (232.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q 8 A 7
      Hero raises to $0.62, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.21, SB calls $2.11, BB folds, Hero raises to $9.09, BTN calls $6.88, SB folds

      Flop: ($20.64) 3 8 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $16.77 and is all-in, BTN calls $16.77

      Turn: ($54.18) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($54.18) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $54.18 pot ($2.70 rake)
      Final Board: 3 8 5 9 Q
      BTN showed 7 J 6 A and won $51.48 ($25.62 net)
      Hero showed Q 8 A 7 and lost (-$25.86 net)
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $32.57 (130.3 bb)
      SB: $95.58 (382.3 bb)
      BB: $27.81 (111.2 bb)
      Hero (MP): $25.86 (103.4 bb)
      CO: $58.13 (232.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q 8 A 7
      Hero raises to $0.62, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.21, SB calls $2.11, BB folds, Hero raises to $9.09, BTN calls $6.88, SB folds

      Flop: ($20.64) 3 8 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $16.77 and is all-in, BTN calls $16.77

      Turn: ($54.18) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($54.18) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $54.18 pot ($2.70 rake)
      Final Board: 3 8 5 9 Q
      BTN showed 7 J 6 A and won $51.48 ($25.62 net)
      Hero showed Q 8 A 7 and lost (-$25.86 net)


      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $20 (80 bb)
      MP: $18.08 (72.3 bb)
      CO: $60.18 (240.7 bb)
      BTN: $67.54 (270.2 bb)
      Hero (SB): $52.96 (211.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 K K J
      2 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, BB folds

      Flop: ($1.95) T 4 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $3.25

      Turn: ($10.95) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.75, BTN calls $6.75

      River: ($24.45) 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Results:
      $24.45 pot ($1.22 rake)
      Final Board: T 4 7 Q 4
      BTN showed K 4 8 K and won $23.23 ($11.13 net)
      Hero showed 9 K K J and lost (-$12.10 net)


      I think I only had 2 similar pots which worked in my favour. It's disgusting what other people call with and they hit their miracles for fun
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $23.94 (95.8 bb)
      MP: $24.75 (99 bb)
      Hero (CO): $101.80 (407.2 bb)
      BTN: $39.82 (159.3 bb)
      SB: $41.65 (166.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 J T 8
      MP folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB raises to $3.65, BB folds, Hero calls $2.80, BTN calls $2.80

      Flop: ($11.20) J 7 8 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $11.20, BTN calls $11.20, SB folds

      Turn: ($33.60) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $33.60, BTN calls $24.97 and is all-in

      River: ($83.54) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results:
      $83.54 pot ($3.00 rake)
      Final Board: J 7 8 3 A
      Hero showed 9 J T 8 and lost (-$39.82 net)
      BTN showed 3 K 5 J and won $80.54 ($40.72 net)


      same session obviously
    • metza
      metza
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      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 2,220
      Lederer is behind this for sure. Get him.
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, Rush, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $18.65 (74.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
      BB: $12.48 (49.9 bb)
      MP: $20.92 (83.7 bb)
      CO: $20 (80 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A 9 A 6
      MP raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.90, BTN calls $2.90, Hero raises to $12.70, BB folds, MP calls $11.85, CO raises to $20 and is all-in, BTN calls $15.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.30, MP calls $7.30

      Flop: ($78.90) 5 A 9 (4 players, 2 are all-in)
      Hero bets $5 and is all-in, MP calls $0.92 and is all-in

      Turn: ($80.74) 2 (4 players, 4 are all-in)
      River: ($80.74) T (4 players, 4 are all-in)

      Results:
      $80.74 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 5 A 9 2 T
      BTN showed 7 9 K 7 and lost (-$18.65 net)
      Hero showed A 9 A 6 and won $1.84 (-$19.08 net)
      MP showed A 5 T J and lost (-$20.92 net)
      CO showed Q 7 7 Q and won $75.90 ($55.90 net)


      I dunno what to say
    • metza
      metza
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      Joined: 28.01.2012 Posts: 2,220
      If you don't like bad beats omaha's probably not the best idea, just sayin' :P
    • tommygecko
      tommygecko
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      Joined: 11.08.2012 Posts: 1,229
      Originally posted by metza
      If you don't like bad beats omaha's probably not the best idea, just sayin' :P
      played tens of thousands of omaha hands at stars, nothing like this ever. lol

      Well people are nittier and stars so variance isn't as bad I guess.

      But today's session was sick. People 3betting 40% and flopping sets and flushes for fun
    • dannywratten
      dannywratten
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      Joined: 11.05.2010 Posts: 1,462
      Fold more rivers.
    • YohanN7
      YohanN7
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      Joined: 15.06.2009 Posts: 4,084
      If you find the players horrible, then you should stay.

      (First hand: What do you expect is calling a pot sized bet on the river that you can beat?)
    • BLOWMEBABE
      BLOWMEBABE
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      Joined: 24.01.2010 Posts: 222
      I know it sucks, but what can you do? Gotta lose that money.
    • badgerer
      badgerer
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      Joined: 29.03.2010 Posts: 555
      dont play for a few days. trust me its for the best.

    • TomasAbr
      TomasAbr
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      Joined: 01.08.2011 Posts: 51
      haha I have also bad days on FTP, started yesterday and till today nothing better.
      I am playing HU sng's per 2days i have played bit more then 500 SnG's going -100Buy ins so far.. Loosing everything, even when i stack off opponent for like 60cips or smth he manage to win ( that happened about 8times per these 2days) hope for better tomorrow..
    • mute20
      mute20
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      Joined: 13.01.2011 Posts: 563
      I was thinking of playing omaha a few months ago, but realized the variance can get insane so the swings could be gigantic.
    • BLOWMEBABE
      BLOWMEBABE
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      Joined: 24.01.2010 Posts: 222
      [ ] Full Tilt Poker fault
      [X] variance
    • andreibalint
      andreibalint
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      Joined: 11.04.2009 Posts: 872
      Complaining about variance in PLO SH RUSH seems kinda silly. I think this game is only beaten in terms of variance by MTT's.

      And 500HU's in 2 days? 6 Tables? 8? Doesn't that seems a bit to much? I'm just sayin...

      Anyway, how do you guys find the players there? Let's say as compared to PS and iPoker/Party?
    • BLOWMEBABE
      BLOWMEBABE
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      Originally posted by andreibalint
      Complaining about variance in PLO SH RUSH seems kinda silly. I think this game is only beaten in terms of variance by MTT's.

      And 500HU's in 2 days? 6 Tables? 8? Doesn't that seems a bit to much? I'm just sayin...

      Anyway, how do you guys find the players there? Let's say as compared to PS and iPoker/Party?
      I assume he is playing micro hyperturbos, so there ain't a problem to find opponents unlike me, who are sitting @60s reg/deep, and no one are joing me.

      +it's nice how people deal with variance - they start playing more tables and make longer sessions. Keep up, boys!
    • TomasAbr
      TomasAbr
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      Joined: 01.08.2011 Posts: 51
      Originally posted by BLOWMEBABE
      Originally posted by andreibalint


      And 500HU's in 2 days? 6 Tables? 8? Doesn't that seems a bit to much? I'm just sayin...

      Anyway, how do you guys find the players there? Let's say as compared to PS and iPoker/Party?
      I assume he is playing micro hyperturbos, so there ain't a problem to find opponents unlike me, who are sitting @60s reg/deep, and no one are joing me.

      +it's nice how people deal with variance - they start playing more tables and make longer sessions. Keep up, boys!
      Yeah, I play up to 500HU games per day now (started this year) its Hyper, thats why I am on such a downswing (variance) anyway now I am -25BI. So far played 1,3k games. I think I can beat them, just need a bigger sample.
      Trying to hit leaderboard for my first time, started playing 6days ago and now I am in TOP 5, soon will be 4th.
    • riouzaki
      riouzaki
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      Joined: 01.02.2012 Posts: 29
      My friend i didn t even got in trouble to see your hands

      i am SURE full tilt is FUBAR rigged ESPECIALLY the OMAHA SPEED POKER

      i have 10-20 poker accounts (had made at almost every possible site i could) and i play poker EVERY day for the last years, although i am stuck at low limits i am a winning player.. what i want to say is that every person that is not retarded can see that something is VERY wrong

      just today I LOST ALMOST EVERY ALL IN situation (pre flop or at flop) at 2 or 1 outer at river..

      THE LAST 2 HANDS OF THE DAY.. 1st i got full house with KKxx at flop.. the noob call bets until river and there he get an Ace and makes better full house..

      the last hand.. i have pocket AAxx flop 3A5 and i bet 3/4 , turn 3 i bet 3/4 and i am almost all in , river 3 i go all in ofc and the villain shows 3xxxx

      HE GOT QUADS RUNNER RUNNER WITH SINGLE CARD CALLING BETS ALL THE WAY

      i send mail to the security but i am sure they will do nothing about it, because 99% they already know

      as community we owe to warn the other members about that kind of cheating sites, and those that have brains can see for themselves, as far for the "gurus of poker" that dont believe anything because they win "millions" every day i really dont give a **** what they believe (and i really doubt they win anyway)


      edit:
      i forgot to say to watch out for some very aggressive guys that bet pot pre flop , then at flop , then at turn at almost all their hands (ofc trush), and then, after they win every player few times they disappear with a LOAD of cash in few minutes..
    • badgerer
      badgerer
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