Back to poker, grind NL10, get bad beats.

    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      I've been playing poker today, and i've had so many bad beats i really need to post a couple to vent my rage. I know everyone hates people who complain about bad beats, because usually it's bad play. But no.

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $16.98 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      SB: $15.96 (VPIP: 15.44, PFR: 10.74, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 150)
      BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.65, PFR: 9.78, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 92)
      UTG: $17.18 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 1)
      UTG+1: $18.40 (VPIP: 11.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
      UTG+2: $12.32 (VPIP: 8.43, PFR: 8.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 83)
      MP: $11.32 (VPIP: 25.19, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 135)
      MP+1: $30.82 (VPIP: 18.00, PFR: 12.75, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, Hands: 154)
      Hero (CO): $10.45

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q:spade: Q:club:

      fold, fold, fold, MP raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.60

      Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) J:spade: 7:club: 6:club:
      MP checks, Hero bets $1.20, MP calls $1.20

      Turn: ($4.35, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      MP checks, Hero bets $2.70, MP raises to $9.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.65 and is all-in

      River: ($21.05, 2 players) T:spade:

      MP shows 9:spade: 7:spade: (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens) (Pre 20%, Flop 24%, Turn 82%)
      Hero shows Q:spade: Q:club: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 80%, Flop 76%, Turn 18%)
      MP wins $20.10

      - _______ -

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $23.18 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 82)
      SB: $15.20 (VPIP: 23.85, PFR: 18.46, 3Bet Preflop: 10.20, Hands: 130)
      BB: $6.19 (VPIP: 10.93, PFR: 7.51, 3Bet Preflop: 2.93, Hands: 1,211)
      UTG: $28.14 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      UTG+1: $13.74 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      Hero (UTG+2): $10.91
      MP: $9.60 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
      MP+1: $15.00 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      CO: $8.58 (VPIP: 13.89, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 37)

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:club: A:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, MP calls $0.70, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) A:diamond: T:diamond: 5:heart:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.70, MP raises to $3.40, fold, Hero raises to $10.21 and is all-in, MP calls $5.50 and is all-in

      Turn: ($20.05, 2 players) 2:heart:

      River: ($20.05, 2 players) J:diamond:

      Hero shows K:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 75%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
      MP shows Q:spade: K:heart: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 25%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
      MP wins $19.15

      - _______________________ -

      :s_cry:
  • 25 replies
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Hi DecMate,

      Bad beats happen sometimes and it's fine to complain about them or share your anger. Though you should still understand that you can't win everytime with the best pre-flop hand and you will sometimes lose after all-in even post-flop when someone had played bad. It's just poker and it makes the game interesting.

      About your hands, I think you should be bet/folding that first hand on turn. Practically no one bluffs here on NL10. You should always have exit plan on hands and you should never get too much in to love with 'em. This time it was a bad play unfortunately :/

      Second one is just a bad beat, got to wonder what he was thinking :s_biggrin: :s_biggrin: :s_biggrin:
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Cpallo!!
      The second hand the guy was 1 tabling and had reallllllly bad stats. I'd never make the call usually.
      So there. :P

      But yeah man, check my F'in graph....



      :s_cry: :s_cry: :s_frown: :s_frown: :s_frown: :s_o:
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      I would be crying after that EV-line, too. That's why I usually hide it from my results :coolface:

      Best of luck anyway :>!
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      I don't think i'd be able to hide it from my results. I love that line too much.

      Another question for you, what should i spend my FPP's on? And at what stage? (i was thinking of saving 15kFPPS (or whatever it is) to get the 200$)
    • jawoftheox
      jawoftheox
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      Joined: 11.09.2013 Posts: 216
      "...people are going to draw out on you a lot more than you're going to draw out on them because they're simply going to have the worst hand against you a lot more times than you have the worst hand against them..."
      Bobby Baldwin

      Take a look from the other side, if you were ahead when you went all-in, why should you worry about it? You did everything right. Well, more or less.

      And I would fold queens
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Hi guys,

      Moved this to Learning to Win forum, it seems more appropriate there.

      Regards,

      Mal.
    • CPallo
      CPallo
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      Joined: 12.04.2012 Posts: 4,343
      Originally posted by DecMate
      I don't think i'd be able to hide it from my results. I love that line too much.

      Another question for you, what should i spend my FPP's on? And at what stage? (i was thinking of saving 15kFPPS (or whatever it is) to get the 200$)
      It depends on what stakes you are playing now and in the future. If you are good at tournaments, one could spend your money into buying tournament tickets as you could get a lot more with your points.

      You can also spare those FPP's and buy stuff if you'd like to. I myself usually spare enough to get that 75d bonus :)
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      So i get it in a couple of times as favorite, get sucked out. Made a bad play and got stacked with bottom set when i should of folded. It's just not looking good.

      Graph:



      I'm running 14BI's under EV,.. Is this seriously variance? I feel like giving up.
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 21,926
      If you keep playing correctly it will eventually turn :)

      Stop looking at your results over a short period, start concentrating on your game and plays and the results will come!

      Hang in there!
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 939
      Originally posted by HollyMichelle
      If you keep playing correctly it will eventually turn :)

      Stop looking at your results over a short period, start concentrating on your game and plays and the results will come!

      Hang in there!
      Thanks Holly :f_biggrin:

      I know, that's definitely something i need to stop bloody doing. It's just i feel like this is the long run, as i've only just started and never put this many hours into poker before.

      The long run needs to hurry up :D lol
    • Styr
      Styr
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      Joined: 11.03.2009 Posts: 408
      Originally posted by DecMate
      I don't think i'd be able to hide it from my results. I love that line too much.

      Another question for you, what should i spend my FPP's on? And at what stage? (i was thinking of saving 15kFPPS (or whatever it is) to get the 200$)
      The FPP hyper turbo satellites offer probably the most value. Considering you know how to play them, obviously. I have been earning about 300-700 FPP per day on average, doing some 5-10 of them each evening - 70FPP ones to a nightly tournament (in Europe) have netted me around $5-$15 per day.
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Originally posted by Styr
      Originally posted by DecMate
      I don't think i'd be able to hide it from my results. I love that line too much.

      Another question for you, what should i spend my FPP's on? And at what stage? (i was thinking of saving 15kFPPS (or whatever it is) to get the 200$)
      The FPP hyper turbo satellites offer probably the most value. Considering you know how to play them, obviously. I have been earning about 300-700 FPP per day on average, doing some 5-10 of them each evening - 70FPP ones to a nightly tournament (in Europe) have netted me around $5-$15 per day.
      Yeah, i did do that ages ago, but the variance is HUGEEE for hypers. Like huge. you have to play like, a ridiculous amount of tournaments to see a result, so i'll give that a pass.

      IN OTHER NEWS

      I played some hands again today, and guess what?

      BAD BEAT

      BAD BEAT

      Ba Ba BAD BEAT.

      One of them was pretty funny

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $29.70 (VPIP: 17.06, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 171)
      SB: $5.20 (VPIP: 16.53, PFR: 8.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.19, Hands: 247)
      BB: $13.14 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
      UTG: $2.24 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
      UTG+1: $8.02 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      UTG+2: $5.00 (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 9.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 684)
      MP: $14.10 (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
      Hero (MP+1): $10.35
      CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

      UTG raises to $2.24 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.24, fold, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($4.63, 2 players) 8:heart: J:spade: 8:spade:

      Turn: ($4.63, 2 players) 6:club:

      River: ($4.63, 2 players) 3:spade:

      UTG shows 8:diamond: 3:diamond: (Full House, Eights full of Threes) (Pre 17%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 83%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
      UTG wins $4.42

      Lol, not only does he hit the trips, he boats up on the river. GAYSWING.

      Also lost my AA to KK (standard, but still annoying)

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $6.61 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      SB: $10.45 (VPIP: 14.96, PFR: 11.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
      BB: $10.10 (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 11.57, Hands: 326)
      UTG: $20.29 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
      UTG+1: $14.21 (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 8.74, 3Bet Preflop: 1.65, Hands: 287)
      UTG+2: $11.48 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
      MP: $11.40 (VPIP: 16.74, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.49, Hands: 238)
      MP+1: $11.49 (VPIP: 26.27, PFR: 17.80, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 119)
      Hero (CO): $11.50

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q:heart: A:club:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.60

      Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) Q:club: Q:diamond: T:diamond:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG+1 raises to $4.20, Hero raises to $10.60 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $6.40

      Turn: ($23.15, 2 players) J:heart:

      River: ($23.15, 2 players) K:heart:

      UTG+1 shows J:spade: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks) (Pre 32%, Flop 24%, Turn 91%)
      Hero mucks Q:heart: A:club: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 68%, Flop 76%, Turn 9%)
      UTG+1 wins $22.11

      So not really a good session but i played well and made some +EV moves, so eyes on the longrun :s_cool:
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      You're still obsessing about bad luck!

      You cannot change the cards!
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $24.00 (VPIP: 13.41, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 82)
      SB: $18.45 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      BB: $5.49 (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 12.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
      UTG: $5.40 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
      UTG+1: $8.19 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      UTG+2: $5.15 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      Hero (MP): $14.28
      MP+1: $16.91 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
      CO: $1.98 (VPIP: 14.12, PFR: 3.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:heart: A:heart:

      fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $5.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.25

      Flop: ($10.45, 2 players) 2:club: 5:heart: T:club:

      Turn: ($10.45, 2 players) 8:heart:

      River: ($10.45, 2 players) 7:heart:

      UTG+2 shows K:spade: A:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 50%, Flop 48%, Turn 40%)
      Hero shows K:heart: A:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 50%, Flop 52%, Turn 60%)
      Hero wins $9.98

      :f_cool:

      Me and the EV line are friends again
    • MasochisticDesire
      MasochisticDesire
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      Originally posted by DecMate
      Me and the EV line are friends again
      Long may it continue, though ... fortune IS fickle :s_evil:

      I'm running similarly below EV this year mate but it aint no thang -
      'It's all in the game, yo, all in the game' - Omar Little

      MD
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      hands since the ones i posted.



      P.S. Fuck poker.
    • jawoftheox
      jawoftheox
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      :facepalm:
    • DecMate
      DecMate
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      Originally posted by jawoftheox
      :facepalm:
      :facepalm:
    • ImpasX
      ImpasX
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      Same for me Decmate, running almost 6BI under EV. :) ofcourse EV line doesn't show how fu**** I'm running, folding set, after straightish board runout, chop pots after 4 straight card comes and so on.

      What's wrong with 10NL...
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