[NL2-NL10] Nl25 P4

    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      What do you think about calling sometimes with pockets and continue with them if you hit the set. Waiting for comments.

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      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4:club: , 4:diamond:
      3 folds, MP2 raises to $0,75, MP3 calls $0,75, CO calls $0,75, BU folds, Hero calls $0,65, BB calls $0,50.

      Flop: ($3,75) A:spade: , T:club: , 4:spade: (5 players)
      Hero bets $0,50, BB calls $0,50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,50, CO calls $0,50.

      Turn: ($5,75) 8:heart: (4 players)
      Hero bets $3,50 (All-In), BB calls $3,50, MP3 folds, CO calls $3,50.

      River: ($16,25) 2:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $5,00, CO calls $5,00.

      Final Pot: $26,25
  • 5 replies
    • TheBu11d0g
      Joined: 25.07.2008 Posts: 2,019
      I think its ok if there's been no raisers in front of you, + only if there's at least 3 limpers and your in the CO/BTN/SB. If there has been a raise and callers as in your case then i personally wouldn't play low-mid pp's.


      The Bulldog
    • alejandrosh
      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      fold preflop you don't have the odds to call a raise with 20BB and play for set value , as played you have to push flop since theres a flush draw, plus every two face cards have gutshots and 5 people on the pot.
    • davidangel
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      Here is an interesting situation, well worth playing IMO.
      First I calculate the pot odds. I need 5:1 with 3 limper/gimp callers, 4.5:1 with 4 limpers and 4:1 with 5. (my numbers are rough estimations, since when you flop a set in a multi-pot you have very good implied odds) I try to stick to the call 20 rule, but at the lower limit you often double or triple through when you do hit, so I think this rule is offset on NL25-10 (purely my observations from grinding away, the PP I play for set value seem to generate more income then they lose)
      If I decide to play my line is call preflop, if I hit a set I bet potsize or open shove depending on potsize, but never less than full pot. If I hit overpair to the board with TT or JJ I push all-in. If I blank I c/f until I fold or improve, and I dont play draws unless I somehow??? manage to hit a monster draw.
      Again, only at NL25-10, thus far
    • alejandrosh
      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      you are getting 1:4 odds maybe the bb calls because he is getting 1:6.5

      12% of the times you are going to flop a set , you are folding 88% of the times.

      0: -0,57 + 0.12*X
      0,57 = 0,12*X

      so you need to win $4.75 (with rake) to break even, that means the pot has to be $4.9875, ok $5 dollars.

      you need to get extra $1.75 ($1.25 if BB calls) on the pot the 3 guys everytime you get the set to break even .... and then is when i become a donk again and i'm waiting for gerv to get this right , i have no idea how to continue since sometimes you are going to flop a set and lose ( to a flush, straight, better set or whatever )

      by the call 20 rule, you have to call 0,6 so the effective stacks have to be $12 ... you have $4 left and 3 people calling so it exactly $12 but i'm don't know if this can be added.
    • IngolPoker
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,482

      you dont consider that a set does not always win!