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[NL20-NL50] nl 25 QQ vs 3bet preflop

    • matkov
      Joined: 15.11.2007 Posts: 202
      Villan is 26/22 he 3bets 8% of a time, he cbets 75% of a time and fold to a donkbet 57 % over 1k hands

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

      Button ($45.25)
      SB ($33.40)
      BB ($25.70)
      Hero (UTG) ($45)
      MP ($49.65)
      CO ($25)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
      Hero raises $1, 1 fold, CO raises $3.35, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.35

      Flop: ($6.70) J, 4, 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.25, CO raises $10.50, Hero folds

      Total pot: $17.20

      Would it be better for me to 4bet him preflop because on the flop I'm OOP? Is it better to c/c flop, and try to float OOP on the turn? Or check and fold his cbet...I donkbeted because I had a 60 % chance he would fold if he 3beted with AK...misplayed entirely?

      btw I put him on KK+ after reraising flop..he then told me he had AA
  • 3 replies
    • Chiller3k
      Joined: 16.06.2007 Posts: 4,326
      considering that he 3bets 8% of the time I would 4bet him preflop.
      against a 8% range you've got an equity of about 64%.
      He's way too aggressive preflop to just call here.
      On the flop I would just check/raise him. I think you are holding the best hand here most of the time.
    • Tosh5457
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      and donkbet/fold is very bad, he only folds 50% of the time, 33% he will have something (could be a J here, TT, etc), 17% of the time he wont. I'd raise with my whole range to your db there, like I do on most cases.

      and worse hands would bet and better hands wouldn't fold, your DB is turning your QQ into a bluff. C/R for value here
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d make it 8$ and go with my hand. It is hard to get value to worse hands with QQ if you should have overpair and you´re getting stacked if player holds KK, AA.
      So I don´t really see any reason why not to 4-bet/call pf.
      On that board c/r is better than donkbet/fold.
      Or if you want to lead out then go bet/shove.