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The stat harvest 2 - WTSD and W$SD

    • JLeitmotiv
      JLeitmotiv
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      Joined: 02.01.2009 Posts: 756
      So, following the SB and BB winnings thread, anyone wants to share his values of WTSD and W$SD?

      I don't have my database here, but I'll post it when I get home. Anyway, how do you think it maks more sense to look at them? With no filters? HU on the flop? HU on the river?
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    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      Joined: 28.04.2010 Posts: 1,745
      41 wtsd - 52 w$sd over 140k hands. overall in 6max
    • redskwerl
      redskwerl
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      Joined: 03.03.2008 Posts: 3,812
      (WTSD / W$SD / W$WSF)

      last ~180k hands midstakes+, 3-6 handed: 43.2 / 52.5 / 45.5
      if we only look at hands hu on the flop: 43.8 / 52.6 / 50.0
    • floaty
      floaty
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      Joined: 13.04.2010 Posts: 935
      mine is 41 wtsd and 55 w$sd this year, but Ive been running good
    • JLeitmotiv
      JLeitmotiv
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      Joined: 02.01.2009 Posts: 756
      Lovely 40.5/49.7 since I started 1/2 this month. I won't be able to survive any shot if I keep running like this and @ -5BB/100 :(
    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      Joined: 28.04.2010 Posts: 1,745
      Originally posted by JLeitmotiv
      Lovely 40.5/49.7 since I started 1/2 this month. I won't be able to survive any shot if I keep running like this and @ -5BB/100 :(
      my first 8 shots at 25/50c I ran 41/44 so dont complain.
    • JLeitmotiv
      JLeitmotiv
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      well, that's because you are a fish. i am simply running bad :D
    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      Joined: 28.04.2010 Posts: 1,745
      Originally posted by JLeitmotiv
      well, that's because you are a fish. i am simply running bad :D
      if i got rid of my mental block I would be a better player than you. so f ....... u biatch haha.
    • JLeitmotiv
      JLeitmotiv
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      Joined: 02.01.2009 Posts: 756

      if i got rid of my mental block I would be a better player than you. so f ....... u biatch haha.
      well, but if you don't get rid of it, you won't be haha
    • YohanN7
      YohanN7
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      Joined: 15.06.2009 Posts: 4,711
      Stop trolling guys.

      Stats from my tenth and final 5c/Tc career (which is hopefully over now):

      • WTSD = 37.96
      • W$SD = 54.09
      • W$WSF = 40.44

      WTSD and W$WSF are kind of low. Do I have a leak?
      I have typical (I believe) TAG stats preflop, VPIP/PFR/3B/4B = 32/23/9/10.
    • dmyers1166
      dmyers1166
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      Joined: 13.01.2012 Posts: 36
      Overall

      30K sample
      WTSD % -- 38.13
      W$SD % -- 51.09
      WWSF % -- 43.48

      I think my Wtsd is to low, though I'm running fine and winning over expected. So would be just a small tweak to 40%.

      HU on flop 5k sample

      WTSD % -- 39.84
      W$SD % -- 51.21
      WWSF % -- 55.54

      Not much change when HU - but wwsf really jumped

      3 or more seeing flop .. 6K sample

      WTSD % -- 36.71
      W$SD % -- 50.98
      WWSF % -- 33.49

      Lost ground on all status but overall win is about the same, bigger but fewer pots.

      I guess overall should push up the % about maybe 2 points and win at 2 points higher but this stat is hard to really move around easily.
    • Boomer2k10
      Boomer2k10
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      Joined: 22.09.2010 Posts: 2,551
      For HUHU:

      WTSD: 49%

      :D
    • decentplayer
      decentplayer
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      Joined: 13.04.2011 Posts: 47
      For 22k hands at 10/20c I have WTSD 47 W$SD 50 but the weird(and awesome :D ) thing is that I have 9.5BB/100h in this sample. Can I be in godmode for 22k hands?

      And by the way..what is now a good winrate at 10/20c up to .50/1 6max?
    • Avataren
      Avataren
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      Joined: 28.04.2010 Posts: 1,745
      Originally posted by decentplayer
      For 22k hands at 10/20c I have WTSD 47 W$SD 50 but the weird(and awesome :D ) thing is that I have 9.5BB/100h in this sample. Can I be in godmode for 22k hands?

      And by the way..what is now a good winrate at 10/20c up to .50/1 6max?
      godmodding for 22k is possible and about winrate.. as long as your above 1BB/100 be happy. though im sure you could reach a 2 - 3BB/100 at 10/20c.. at 0.5/1 . If you get 1 - 2 BB/100 Im going to be mad jealous.