STOP pokerstars!!! LIVE DEALERS ONLINE

    • panahs
      panahs
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      Many people have complaints about the RNG on pokerstars.Let 's advise pokerstars to change from RNG to live dealers online as others smaller companies have.
      For example: [COLOR=red][Edited by Lazza61 - This could be seen as promoting a competing poker room][/COLOR],http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-PEhlx2Ab8
      Check it!!!
      If pokerstars can proofs that they play fear game let try to put live dealers online. At my opinion as the biggest company at poker industry they can do this and all the people with complaints believe that they are loosing because are not good players.
      My pokerstars account: panahscy
      I am playing cashgames.

      What is your opinion?
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    • TomasAbr
      TomasAbr
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      Are you insane? You know how much it will cost?
      If they would do live dealers i think rake would jump x5 times or smth I am speaking about NL10, sure high stakes might do this but also they would have to pay more rake.. and believe me pokerstars deals random cards..
    • ilidek
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      Originally posted by panahs
      Many people have complaints about the RNG on pokerstars.Let 's advise pokerstars to change from RNG to live dealers online as others smaller companies have.
      For example: [Edited by Lazza61]
      Check it!!!
      If pokerstars can proofs that they play fear game let try to put live dealers online. At my opinion as the biggest company at poker industry they can do this and all the people with complaints believe that they are loosing because are not good players.
      My pokerstars account: panahscy
      I am playing cashgames.

      What is your opinion?

      LOL and as an example of fairness you give a link to mafia owned dollaro network known for scumming hundreds of players that only fault was they were winning. Epic fail man.
    • panahs
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      Dear ilidek,

      I am not doing promotion about dollaro network anyway.I speak about the technology.There are some companies in the industry selling this kind of tables and cameras.It looks like more realistic.I mean the method to play online poker with real dealers watching them live from camera.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-PEhlx2Ab8

      Maybe there are many companies like dollaro network but i do not know all of them.If you know others please give the links
    • NijeVaznoKoSam
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      actuell Pokerstars need 19.228 Dealer and cameras :D
    • tukioppilas62
      tukioppilas62
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      Losers lose and make excuses why do they lose, nothing new with that. Study the game and improve like most ppl here. :)
    • panahs
      panahs
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      Dear NijeVaznoKoSam ,

      It does not need to be a live dealer to all tables but in some of them.At least the players to have a second option.
      And if they prefer faster and small rakeback to choose the classic way.If the do not prefer the non-trusted RNG to choose the live dealer
    • panahs
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      Dear tukioppilas62,

      Maybe i am looser player.As a winner player you are, can you give us your opinion about RNG pokerstars?Can you proof that pokerstars play fear with cards on board?Can you answer why a lot of players are loosing every time on river?Why some fantastic players (maybe you also) the call everything from any position with any hole cards?Can you answer why players are changing accounts, just to start win again?

      I CAN SEND YOU MY HAND HISTORY IF YOU WANT!!!!
    • ipeaceonu
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    • tukioppilas62
      tukioppilas62
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      No, I dont want need or even want to prove you anything. Just gave you my advice which was totally unneccessary as well as the whole discussion here.

      Write a nice email to pokerstars and they bann your acc. After your problem is solved I know a place where you can make some friends "http://fuckpokerstars.com/".
    • panahs
      panahs
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      tukioppilas62,
      the discussion here is necessary!!! So if you do not want to discuss it is OK.I wrote an email to pokerstars.com and i am asking for them to be present in the discussion.I informed about the thread.

      So Mr lawyer where is pokerstars now?
    • tonypmm
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      Also, hit up Table Ninja developers so that they write a live version making the dealer flash when the action is on you.

      I mean that live dealer games are too slow, when a recreational player can be easily 2-3-tabling online.

      Poker in Venice also tried to do this live dealer thing for poker (there are a lot of live dealer online casinos, incl. Playtech, they're profitable businesses for sure), but it never attracted a lot of players. (Those who did play there enjoyed megaweak opposition, though :f_grin: ) It all ended because of the owner's severe gambling addiction, lolfail. A lot of money is now owed to players :f_cry:
    • tonypmm
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      Pro tips:

      1) changing default Stars' sounds to the ones from the Microgaming poker client (like I did) or a custom theme might make them less rigged (i.e. less tilting);

      2) there's a bill that proposes enabling buying Russian citizenship for ~$300K; if it's passed, it might be a good investment for those who play online poker a lot.
    • ipeaceonu
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      Originally posted by panahs
      tukioppilas62,
      the discussion here is necessary!!! So if you do not want to discuss it is OK.I wrote an email to pokerstars.com and i am asking for them to be present in the discussion.I informed about the thread.

      So Mr lawyer where is pokerstars now?
      No, this discussion is not necessary. Do some research!!!

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+effects+of+variance+in+poker

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+does+an+rng+work+

      You don't have to thank me.
    • Ganimator
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      This thread gave me a good laugh :D

      Online poker may feel rigged at the beginning, the truth is you are probably not as good as you think and need to improve or you are going through a tough period of variance. You will make it through it , keep your chin up.

      GL
    • panahs
      panahs
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      @ipeaceonu
      This discussion here is necessary!!!!YOU DO SOME RESEARCH!!!!

      http://www.pokerology.com/lessons/math-and-probability/

      http://www.regentsprep.org/Regents/math/algtrig/ATS2/NormalLesson.htm

      THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION

      As i told you, i have invited pokerstars to be present in this thread.wait...... wait..... wait....
      can do this officialy?
    • Timmaywin
      Timmaywin
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      The live dealing is rigged, AJo wins on the river from AKo!!!! :f_biggrin:
    • panahs
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      After the invitation to pokerstars.com i have an official answer.Here is the email:

      support@pokerstars.com
      Προς Εγώaffiliates@pokerstarspartners.com
      Σήμερα στις 9:17 μ.μ.
      Hello Panayiotis,

      Thank you for contacting PokerStars.

      We have forwarded your email to our Affiliates Team. They will review your enquiry and respond as soon as possible.

      We appreciate your patience, and thank you for playing at PokerStars.

      Regards,

      Aneta
      PokerStars Support Team

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      My email was:

      > _______________________________________________________
      > From: panahslouka@yahoo.gr
      > Sent: 02/15/14 18:58:46
      > To: PokerStars Support <support@pokerstars.com>
      > Subject: official discussion on pokerstrategy.com forum about RNG
      >
      > User ID: panahscy This message was sent from the Contact Support form. Authenticated sender is "panahslouka@yahoo.gr"
      >
      > Category: Poker Sub-Category:
      > Client Version: '7661' System (OS) Info: 'Windows7[6.1]'
      >
      > Message:
      >
      > Dear Sir/Madam,
      >
      > I would like to inform you about a thread opened from me about pokerstars RNG.I ask from you to be present officialy and give explanations about some issues.Also many people start discuss on thread sometimes asking and ather times give advises.it is very interesting!!!
      > STOP pokerstars!!! LIVE DEALERS ONLINE
      >
      > Thank you
      > Panagiotis Louka


      IF SOMEONE WANT TO FORWARD THE EMAIL JUST ASK
    • Jafreiteris
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    • Rihard4a
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      Reminds me of the other guys thread who was running way below EV playing tourney formats (SNG) and complained that RNG is sending massive dildos into his butthole.

      Stop bitchin', ship moneyz. :coolface: