[NL2-NL10] ATs BU

    • caltabiano
      caltabiano
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $4,75
      BB:
      $50,88
      UTG:
      $5,00
      UTG+2:
      $24,75
      MP1:
      $6,46
      MP2:
      $5,95
      MP3:
      $4,30
      CO:
      $8,32
      Hero:
      $4,30

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:club: , T:club:
      2 folds, MP2 calls $0,25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0,25, SB calls $0,15, BB checks.

      Flop: ($1,00) 2:spade: , 8:spade: , T:heart: (4 players)
      SB bets $0,50, BB folds, MP2 raises to $1,00, Hero raises to $4,05 (All-In), SB folds, MP2 calls $3,05.

      Turn: ($9,60) K:club:
      River: ($9,60) 7:spade:


      Final Pot: $9,60

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of tens (Ac Tc)
      MP2 shows two pairs, kings and tens (Ts Kd)

      MP2 wins with two pairs, kings and tens (Ts Kd)

      First of all, I'm unsure about pre-flop game. The SHC says "Raise 0" in this situation. So I figured I shuold've folded instead of calling it, innit?

      What about the flop? I've got TPTK, although it's only a T. Is it correct to shove it nevertheless?

      Chers
  • 7 replies
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      hmm, I think i remember undercover limping some Axs hands in one of his videos against loose limpers like MP2 here. would be interested to see what Ingol says. I like your shove on flop.

      Personally i would have isolated him or folded. Raise to $1.25, fold to 4bet, push any flop first in.
    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      i think you should've just raise preflop to 1.25.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by caltabiano
      The SHC says "Raise 0" in this situation.
      I dont get the hang of this ..? but ok.

      Limping along is possible but raising this hand is better bang for your hole cards

      ATs=
      0.98% Straight
      11.79% FD+
      15~% TopPair
      3.49% TwoPair+
      --------------------
      31.26% -> 2.2:1


      As played, you only have {temporarily} TopPairTopKicker on a straighty/flushy board. I would fold or coldcall and see if SB calls or 3-bets.
      If he 3-bets, I fold
      if he calls, you push the turn if the card is not a J,Q,K or a

      - Gerv
    • caltabiano
      caltabiano
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Originally posted by caltabiano
      The SHC says "Raise 0" in this situation.
      My SHC says "raise 0", meaning I should raise if there are no limpers, otherwise I shuld fold
    • hammiemon85
      hammiemon85
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.09.2008 Posts: 116
      given that you are on the button, with a loose limper before you, i would discount that limper in this situation.

      Furthermore, ATs are also very playable after the flop, and you have position on all your opponents. If the action gets too heavy, you can always fold. But more often then not, you will be able to take the dead money preflop (steal) in this kind of situation.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
      Black
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      raise or fold preflop

      with some experience you should raise, otherwise fold

      limping SUCKS
    • caltabiano
      caltabiano
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      Hahaha... I got two "Limping sucks" today \o/

      No way I'll forget that =)