Finding the fish quickly

    • edavidko1
      edavidko1
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      Hey.
      I am a new user of Hem2 that I have recently purchased [Edited by VorpalF2F]. I play at Party NL100 SH tables.
      I have one qustion.
      After running tables the HUD displays after the first played hand. How do you solve to immediately find out who is Fish at the table, to have on him the best position?
      Thank you. (sorry for my bad english)
  • 11 replies
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Hi, edavidko1,

      There is a part of HM2 called "Table Scanner" that might help find good tables.

      I don't know much about it. I still evaluate the other players on my table to see what types of players are seated to my left and right.

      I'll leave after a couple of orbits if I don't like the layout.

      You'll notice I edited out a portion of your post.
      I suggest you have a look at our forum principles and it should be obvious why.

      If not, send me a PM using the community tool and I'll explain.

      Best of luck,
      --VS
    • Glopslart
      Glopslart
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      Here I am! You said you were looking for me .... ?
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by Glopslart
      Here I am! You said you were looking for me .... ?
      Wish I'd thought of that....
      :s_biggrin:
    • Harrier88
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      One quick (but incomplete) way to spot the fish could be to look at the players VPIP.
      If they have a VPIP higher than 30 over a decent sample size they are already looser than usual. A VPIP of over 40 should be most likely indicative of a fish.
      Also, make sure to compare it to their PFR to see whether they can be considered a maniac or a calling station.

      Alternatively, just look for players with "Harrier88" or variations thereof as their username. :f_wink:
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
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      Here's a whole bunch of pro tips:

      Usually a round or two are enough, moreover, in the majority of cases one should be able to tell a reg from a fish from a single hand. There are a lot of metagame tells, and they've been listed many times on forums.

      Someone who:

      waits for the big blind when joining the table -> is a reg or at least not a total drooler
      posts OOP -> fish

      shows trash down -> fish
      has sizing leaks (min-3-5-bets or minraises over limpers pre, makes small - not min - bets post) -> fish
      minbets post -> fish, or myself / masstabler whose hotkeys are buggy

      trash-chats -> fish or tilted mediocre reg, if he uses advanced poker terms (like 'outs') or poker forum slang then obv a reg
      chats quite a bit and politely -> (reg)fish

      is found playing at >2 tables by permascan or clicking through the lobby -> reg, myself or ubermaniac

      has been playing 4+ max for more than a round, with all his opps being identified as regs -> fish or masstabler

      0/0 or 20/0 after 5 hands -> reg
      VPIP>=80 after 10 hands, VPIP=100 after 5 hands -> fish

      takes too little time to act -> reg or myself (due to using hotkeys)
      takes too much time to act -> masstabling reg or bored FB-checking fish at a FR table

      buys in for more than the minimum but less than the maximum -> fish

      bets non-default %-ages of the pot that are apparently not typed in manually (e.g. 80% on iPoker if it's not $2 or smth round) -> usually reg (has given a **** about changing this setting or getting hotkeys)

      auto tops up whenever possible -> reg (it's usually known after the first hand because he folds the BB in 80%+ of cases)
      has no top-up -> fish or loosish passive reg

      has an iPoker SN ending by digits and starting with 'TTR', 'WWR', 'BMR', 'alspc', etc except 'bf' -> fish (casino / sportsbook gambler)
      has an iPoker SN starting with 'bf' -> Betfair fish or reg that had played on Ongame before (so it's not a tell)
      has an aggressive SN -> reg
      has an SN referring to poker terms (often those known only by regs) -> reg
      has his / her real name or an animal as the SN, sometimes with a birth year -> usually fish
    • Harrier88
      Harrier88
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      I can add a couple:

      has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
      has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
      has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
      has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
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      Originally posted by Harrier88
      I can add a couple:

      has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
      has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
      has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
      has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:
      Right, but the reference to Isildur has to be humorous. Otherwise, someone copying the SN of a known shark (especially a not-so-known online shark) is a reg. I have an Isildur in my iPoker SnGs, and he's at least a very high volume player without apparent weaknesses, even if not a good reg. The same applies to the value clown of my iPoker PLO games.
    • Lazza61
      Lazza61
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      Originally posted by Harrier88
      I can add a couple:

      has a SN referring to himself as a bad player -> probably reg
      has a SN that is some "humorous" variation of Doyle Brunson or Isildur1 -> probably fish
      has a picture of his pets, family or girlfriend as an avatar -> probably fish
      has a baby picture as an avatar -> FISH!!!!!!! :f_mad:
      It's true. I have a picture of my cat and I'm a fish :P
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by Lazza61
      It's true. I have a picture of my cat and I'm a fish :P
      Makes sense.
      One player had a picture of a fish, but it turned out he was a cat. :coolface:

      So....
      Armed with all this knowledge, I should do everything possible to make myself look like a fish.

      Or, should I do everything in my power to NOT look like a fish.

      decisions, decisions.

      Oh, and my contribution:
      Anyone from Canada --> defo fish.

      Cheers,
      --VS
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
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      Be careful, someone shown as a Canadian might turn out a poker refugee from the US! :f_eek: (Fishes don't earn enough money to emigrate, nor have the urge to do so, do they?)
    • edavidko1
      edavidko1
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      Thank you guys for usefull helps ;)
      I will start working on it :)