[NL20-NL50] NL50SH: another hand!

    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $57,10
      Hero:
      $51,00

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:club: , 2:club:
      Hero raises to $2,00, 4 folds, BB calls $1,50.

      Flop: ($4,25) Q:spade: , K:club: , T:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $3,50, BB raises to $9,00, Hero calls $5,50.

      Turn: ($22,25) Q:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($22,25) 8:diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $10,00, Hero raises to $40,00 (All-In), BB folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back..

      Final Pot: $42,25
  • 8 replies
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      I shove flop, nuts fd + GS + an overcard you got 50% equity atleast, but you want FE too.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      i had nowhere near 50% equity against his range imo. i also think i had hardly any FE.
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Hand 0: 59.899% 59.05% 00.84% 21047 301.00 { QQ+, KQs, KTs, QTs, KQo, KTo, QTo }
      Hand 1: 40.101% 39.26% 00.84% 13991 301.00 { Ac2c }

      This is a very strong range, there are more hands he'd do this with and I dont believe he could have KK, QQ or even TT, he'd 3bet preflop.

      Why do you say you hardly got any FE and yoi dont have 50% equity? He's very agressive, he could have so many hands, even air. Any :club: and a J give you the nuts (ok, unless board pairs up), that's 13 outs right there.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Don´t like shoving, since you have position.
      But you have to bet on the turn, since you probably has the best hand- boat would lead out on the turn.
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      11 AF is very high. He'll raise a lot of flops with rubbish --> Shoving/reraising here on the flop with multidraw + overcard.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      Originally posted by Tosh5457
      Hand 0: 59.899% 59.05% 00.84% 21047 301.00 { QQ+, KQs, KTs, QTs, KQo, KTo, QTo }
      Hand 1: 40.101% 39.26% 00.84% 13991 301.00 { Ac2c }

      This is a very strong range, there are more hands he'd do this with and I dont believe he could have KK, QQ or even TT, he'd 3bet preflop.

      Why do you say you hardly got any FE and yoi dont have 50% equity? He's very agressive, he could have so many hands, even air. Any :club: and a J give you the nuts (ok, unless board pairs up), that's 13 outs right there.
      the range you gave him is incorrect. you haven't even included AJ.


      about the FE: the sample size was very small, so the AF really didn't mean much. also, he quickly raised, and in my experience of NL50 that's very strong.


      Originally posted by Diedobal
      11 AF is very high. He'll raise a lot of flops with rubbish --> Shoving/reraising here on the flop with multidraw + overcard.
      sample size was too small for AF to mean much imo.
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Don´t like shoving, since you have position.
      But you have to bet on the turn, since you probably has the best hand- boat would lead out on the turn.
      so you call, if he bets turn you call and c/f river if u dont hit. if he checks turn you bet, which won't have so much FE as flop re-raise.

      if you hit flush or J he might not give any more action. and if you hit an ace on turn or river, you're folding on river?

      I dont mean to be agressive or sarcastic, I'm still learning. I just think re-raising is better. So if you could explain why calling is better I'd be thankful :)
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2007 Posts: 13,264
      Both is possible here. Reraising and getting it in is an option. Calling and playing for implieds is also an option because we give him the opportunity to make even bigger faults.
      I like calling because we have position and this aggressive player is likely to make a fault on the next streets.
      I bet this turn small, a sucker bet like 9 Dollar does the job.

      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar