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[NL2-NL10] NL100 How many BigBlinds can i push with QQ?

    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (10 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Button ($131.55)
      SB ($43.72)
      BB ($18.58)
      UTG ($19.50)
      UTG+1 ($164.85)
      UTG+2 ($106.71)
      Hero (MP1) ($38.48)
      MP2 ($49.18)
      MP3 ($51.05)
      CO ($20.50)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q
      3 folds, CO calls $1, UTG+1 raises $4, 3 folds, Hero raises $11.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises $30, Hero ????

      Villain is 21/13. Would he 4bet with AK or JJ? I just can't push 26BB more with anything less than kings can i?
  • 8 replies
    • hammiemon85
      hammiemon85
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.09.2008 Posts: 116
      no stats?

      against a typical opponent in NL25, i would go broke here. They re-re-raise TT+, AQ+ very often. But against a tight opponent, i would fold.
    • Backcushion
      Backcushion
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 816
      I think it's definetely KK or AA,because the guy has only 13 pfr,he's utg and he's 4betting
    • drachdudek
      drachdudek
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      Joined: 06.11.2007 Posts: 656
      you are double stack as it seems...i would fold here after his re-raise and also i would raise his miniraise less...
    • hammiemon85
      hammiemon85
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      Joined: 12.09.2008 Posts: 116
      sorry i didn't notice the stats in the first place.

      But drachdudek is right, you are double stacked and i would fold here to protect the stack.

      Looking at his stats of 21/13 i don't think that is too tight, i still think JJ+ and AK+ is still within his range. I would probably push if i had a normal stack.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Well you are either facing this decision:
      AA/KK : way behind
      JJ: Way ahead
      AK: Flipping
      QQ : Splitting but unlikely
      2 out of 4(5) you are way behind so I would just fold it here. Especially with your doubled stack.

      if you had 20bb you need 25% so i would have shoved it then but with a doubled stack, no way.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      ok, thats good that you guys all agree with me. I felt kind of bad immediately after folding that one....
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
      Black
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,485
      well, then i make you feel bad again :D

      i dont fold it here...

      you need about 33% EQ...against QQ+,AK you have 40!! Do you think he folds AK here? no way!!

      as a bigstack there is no way to fold KK preflop
      as a shorty (even with 40bb) its nearly impossible to fold QQ....only if there is raise-reraise-rereraise in front of you :rolleyes:
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      Joined: 27.07.2008 Posts: 4,494
      I write the same post Ingol, but then i decide that I'm wrong.
      If I played that hand I will never fold QQ here, without stats or reads.