10NL & Beyond!

    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Joined: 07.04.2011 Posts: 95
      Hello there,
      I've been playing poker for about 2-3 years now.I had deposited a 20$ on stars last year, played 2nl 5nl and 10nl in about 2-3 months. After 30k hands in 10nl I was a losing player and decided to quit.
      It's been over a month since I made another 20$ deposit and played 2nl and 5nl.
      30k hands in 5nl and I found myself 20BI up. With a good bankroll I decided to take a shot @ 10nl.
      This is how the result has been.

      http://i44.tinypic.com/9a4xp2.png


      My aim is to make atleast 25BI at 10nl before moving to 25nl. No 16NL for me.
      Also need to improve my red line.
  • 189 replies
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Will do a quick 1 hour session and post results!!

      Current $$ Won @ 10NL: 13$
    • clawindsouza
      clawindsouza
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      Hey Sketsomania.

      Nice to see you here at Pokerstrategy.com. :)

      Good to see a good start too. You should post some hands too so that players will come and participate in evaluating them.

      Also how did the session go?
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Thanks Clawin..

      The session ended -13$

      Badly played!
      I knew he's not doing this with anything but a flush still I wanted to see it:D

      Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2208962
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      MP: $10.00
      Hero (CO): $12.05
      BTN: $11.18
      SB: $30.47
      BB: $19.32
      UTG: $10.00

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q :heart: A :spade:
      1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, SB calls $0.85, 2 folds

      Flop: ($2.20) K :diamond: 2 :spade: 4 :club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($2.20) T :club: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      River: ($3.00) J :club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.30, SB raises to $29.17 all in, Hero calls $8.45 all in




      Amount Won @ 10NL--0$
    • clawindsouza
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      I'm more concerned about the play before the river than the play on the river.

      Preflop: I think just flatting here is better than 3betting. 3 betting isn't too bad if you think he's going to call the 3bet with a wide range.

      Flop: On this dry board I would bet 100% of my range. Checking is really bad unless you got KK here. Even then I'd bet at nl10 against most players.

      Turn(As played on the flop by you): When he bets 40c, I'm either raising or folding. I think calling is the worst option out of the three.

      Hope this makes sense. Let me know if you have any doubts. :)
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Yup.. My cbet is 72% and even higher in 3bet pots.It was a mistake not to cbet the flop which caused my my stack. The problem is that I sometimes tend to mix my play by not cbetting certain boards where I have top pair and position. Also playing 3betting with hands like JTs 9Ts from btn/co to mix my play but it often leads to problems!

      Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2208974
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      UTG: $10.00
      MP: $9.33
      CO: $18.39
      BTN: $10.52
      Hero (SB): $10.71
      BB: $10.00

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q :heart: J :spade:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.29, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO calls $0.61

      Flop: ($1.90) 2 :heart: 5 :diamond: 9 :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

      Turn: ($4.10) A :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.20, CO calls $2.20

      River: ($8.50) A :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $8.90, Hero folds


      Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2208975
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      SB: $10.95
      BB: $4.16
      UTG: $11.57
      MP: $14.63
      Hero (CO): $10.00
      BTN: $10.87

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 2 :diamond: 2 :heart:
      UTG raises to $0.29, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.29, 3 folds

      Flop: ($0.73) 7 :club: 2 :spade: J :spade: (2 players)
      UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.53) K :spade: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

      River: ($3.93) K :diamond: (2 players)
      UTG bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95
    • clawindsouza
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      In the first hand just fold preflop. QJo isn't the best hand to play OOP with that stack. Wouldn't recommend 3betting there unless you got some reads. Post flop seems fine as played.

      In the second hand, On the wet board I prefer raising flop to make the draws pay to see the next card. I don't mind shoving river.
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      1st hand JQ: I thought flatting with such a hand OOP will make it difficult to play so I intended to 3bet to take the pot down. Once he calls I have to cbet to represent big PP. Dont you think folding preflop would be too nitty?

      2nd hand If i bet turn and get shoved on what do i do fold or call? or even if he raises to something like 4$?
    • clawindsouza
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      Hand 1 - Post flop depends on his fold to 3bet. If his fold to 3bet is very high, then check folding is alright.

      Hand 2 - Why not just check back turn?
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Another session down 3 BI

      Villain is Fish


      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB = ($3.85)
      BB = ($25.55)
      MP2 = ($10.15)
      MP3 = ($12.61)
      CO = ($10.64)
      BU (Hero) = ($10.00)

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A, A.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.65) Q, J, 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40.

      Turn: ($1.45) J (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80.

      River: ($3.05) 4 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $3.20, Hero calls $1.60.

      Final Pot: $9.45.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, aces and jacks(A A).
      BB shows a flush, king high(2 K).

      BB wins with a flush, king high(2 K).



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      Same villain

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3 = ($2.32)
      CO = ($33.56)
      BU = ($13.37)
      SB = ($10.04)
      BB (Hero) = ($10.00)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
      MP3 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, CO calls $0.35.

      Flop: ($0.95) 9, 5, 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50.

      Turn: ($1.95) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10.

      River: ($4.15) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40.

      Final Pot: $8.95.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of aces(Q A).
      CO shows a flush, ace high(9 T).

      CO wins with a flush, ace high(9 T).



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      Villain is nt

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO = ($4.32)
      BU = ($14.39)
      SB (Hero) = ($10.23)
      BB = ($10.00)
      MP2 = ($10.73)
      MP3 = ($10.00)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A.
      2 folds, CO calls $0.10, BU calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, BB calls $0.35, 2 folds, BU folds.

      Flop: ($1.1) 8, 9, J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60.

      Turn: ($2.3) J (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.30, BB calls $1.30.

      River: ($4.9) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40.

      Final Pot: $7.7.
      Results follow:

      BB shows a full-house, eights full of jacks(8 8).
      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(J A).

      BB wins with a full-house, eights full of jacks(8 8).



      Total WOn @ 10nl = -30$

      10nl seems impossbile . After 20k hands I am nowhere
    • clawindsouza
      clawindsouza
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      Suits missing.
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      err didnt see that

      1st is flush draw on board
      2nd is runner flush
    • clawindsouza
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      You're missing so much value. The bet sizing is way too small. At nl10 you should be betting anywhere between 2/3rd to 3/4th pot. Players call with so many bad hands even though they're not getting the right odds.
    • clawindsouza
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      Also second hand check/fold turn.

      Third hand I'd bet river.
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Thanks Clawin for the review. I've never been so interested in keeping the blog updated
      With regard to my sizing it is 60% for all cbets and 67 to 80 % for all good made hands ie TPTK and above and again 60% for top pair weak kicker in 3way pots.

      Just had a session and was 25$ up


      Total won @ 10NL -6$

      Also, i've noticed when I'm losing i tend to play far more time that I would do when I'm winning. For ex if im losing ill keep playing for 2-3 hours and if i get some early wins i start playing conservatively and tend to save the money won. Any tips how to deal with that?
    • clawindsouza
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      That's normal. Every poker player deals with that. :)

      There is no real rule as to what should be done but some tips that have helped me are:

      1) Getting off tables where I got 200bb+

      Especially when I'm playing a new limit, I'm a little uncomfortable with a big stack. I start losing a lot of small pots. Hence I just leave a few hands after doubling up and sit on another table.

      2) Not looking at my overall BR.

      Since I'm curious I'd just look once every half an hour or so. But I try not to look at it as much as possible.

      The key is to start focusing on making the right decisions and not bother about your br.
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      Hmm.. I feel a large part of the game consists in tackling the mental game.

      Did another session -11$

      Total @ 10NL -18$
    • clawindsouza
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      Yeah it is.

      How many times do you know your beat but convince yourself that he's bluffing. Avoiding those super close calls is also one of the main ways to reduce those losses.
    • sketosomania
      sketosomania
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      More losing sessions

      Total @ 10NL - -40$
    • clawindsouza
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      Hands!!

      Post more hands. I'm guessing that even in the hands that you're winning, you're not getting full value.