[NL2-NL10] NL 10 FR - Pocket aces, call or fold ?

    • NymXXL
      NymXXL
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      Hero=MickyRocks, bob sfog VPIP,WTSD,PFR,AF 18,89 23,45 2,22 1,83

      ossMedia Game #1298002898: Table Table TH 154 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:50:58 - 2008/10/29
      Seat 1: Gerike24 ($9.77)
      Seat 3: 4JoKeR4 ($9.40)
      Seat 7: MickyRocks ($10.41)
      Seat 9: catsmasher ($12.37)
      Seat 2: Mokoman ($2.08)
      Seat 6: Koax ($9.58)
      Seat 8: bob sfog ($11.14)
      Seat 4: KnowName ($27.67)
      Seat 5: rockst41 ($13.31)
      Seat 10: Machy18 ($9.74)
      catsmasher posts the big blind of $0.10
      bob sfog posts the small blind of $0.05
      MickyRocks is the button
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to MickyRocks [Ah As]
      Machy18 folds
      Gerike24 folds
      Mokoman folds
      4JoKeR4 folds
      KnowName folds
      rockst41 folds
      Koax calls $0.10
      MickyRocks raises $0.50
      bob sfog calls $0.50
      catsmasher folds
      Koax folds
      *** FLOP *** [8s 2c Qs]
      bob sfog checks
      MickyRocks bets $0.90
      bob sfog raises $1.80
      MickyRocks calls $1.80
      *** TURN *** [8s 2c Qs] [2s]
      bob sfog bets $2.40
      MickyRocks calls $2.40
      *** RIVER *** [8s 2c Qs 2s] [5d]
      bob sfog goes all-in with $6.44
      MickyRocks folds
      *** SUMMARY ***
      Total pot $9.12 | Rake $0.48
      Board: [8s 2c Qs 2s 5d]
  • 6 replies
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Raise flop in order to get all in on flop or turn
    • fehl2k
      fehl2k
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      I think that I would raise one more at the flop. You are very strong here with an overpair and a bdfd.

      Your Turncall is ok with your fd and your overpair, but I don't know how to react at the river.
    • s0me1
      s0me1
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      Shove after his raise on flop. He can have really easy KQ or AQ.
    • davidangel
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      When you see a low aggression player betting, they most likely have a piece of the flop, and most chum consider top pair (any kicker) to be enough for betting/raising, more so heads up. In this hand you get click-raised (a very good indication of a chum) so I would guess you are waaaay ahead, the villians betting pattern shows some strength, however, on the turn a strong hand (set) has turned into a monster (FH), so I think he would opt to check/raise again, you might have just made a flush, and he could not be outdrawn on the river, and still has another betting round. Here I think villian holds QK-8 and the board pairing might have won you the hand in the case of Q8
      Some chum like to bet thier draws in a cash game as well, so make it expensive to do so. The only non-donkey hand that flat-calls preflop and has you beat on the flop or turn is 88.
      I would 4-bet the flop and call his push. Push turn in any case.

      I look at AA this way... go broke. If you lay out 9 random hands vs AA and flop out 5 cards the AA makes the best hand 1 in 10. The hand that beats AA of the 9 hands is never a chosen favorite, that is, no one hand wins more often in this context. If I make a bet and eliminate 8 of the 9 hands I can push knowing it does not matter my opponents cards, they will only beat me once in 9, no matter thier cards. And thats why we see AA lamenting bad beats with bad cards, but in reality, the cards dont matter. Having said that, we can further break down our crude numbers and see that, yes, overall a certain type of hand (not specific) wins vs AA more often than another type, hence suited no-gappers from T-5 are your best chance to crack Aces.

      Again, I would bet/raise every chance I get with AA.
    • Kaitz20
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      I like your fold on the river he is hardy ever shoving there as a bluff and he won´t shove Qx for value.
      Flop and turn are also nicely played. When player c/r 10-max game after he has limped then he probably has set.
    • TheBrood
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      This happened to me yesterday, a very tight aggr. guy called my pf raise (AA) and then proceeded to donk a low number/trash flop like 297. I switched to call mode and figured he had a set on river but I called anyway just to see if he didnt have JJ/QQ and he had 22. Lesson learned I guess.