Any winning zoom players on here?

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    • AlvisR
      AlvisR
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      how big must be "longterm" to determine winning player?
    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
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      I am winning at zoom25 after 60k hands, not such a big sample though..
    • RasTweet
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      Originally posted by FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      I am winning at zoom25 after 60k hands, not such a big sample though..
      I got about the same sample size and also winning at nl25/50.
    • TheLandlordUK
      TheLandlordUK
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      Originally posted by AlvisR
      how big must be "longterm" to determine winning player?
      There are loads of regs playing over a thousand hands an hour at zoom. They rae playing 120k plus a month.
      But let's just underestimate, and say 60k hands a month, for six months or more.
    • TheLandlordUK
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      Thanks Frankie and Ras. What winrates are you managing?
    • AlvisR
      AlvisR
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      started to zoom as well (6max nl5 and nl10 mixed together in here)

    • RasTweet
      RasTweet
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      Originally posted by TheLandlordUK
      Thanks Frankie and Ras. What winrates are you managing?
      I'm sorry I don't have 60k, it's 54k hands, I forgot that there were some iPoker hands in there. For that 54k hands I'm at 3,4bb/100.

      35k hands on nl25 zoom
      19k hands on nl50 zoom

      Regards

      RasTweet
    • lkdr9494
      lkdr9494
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      I'm not a poker pro, I'm a fish talking of my own experience

      Hello mate, personally I believe Zoom is a grenade. If you are not careful enough you'll end up blowing up. I started playing NL2 FR Zoom in pokerstars over a month ago and I can't say I've done bad. Started with 20$, peaked at 215$ (playing NL5) and now I'm down to $180, but been thinking if I should play regular cash tables or stick to Zoom. This is my blog thread with some graphs:
      Swimming out of Venezuelan Hell
      I assume this doesn't violate any forum terms if it does I apologize.

      Zoom is very hard in my opinion due to the amount of hands you play, you certainly can win a lot but you can lose a lot as well. You have to focus a lot mate to keep your A-game, you play a 1k hands session if you get a bad beat in the first hundred hands and you can't control your tilt or set a stop loss limit you are gonna lose your bankroll in a wink. (Trust me I lost 40 bucks in 2 days controling my tilt and losing a maximun of 2 BI per session).

      So my personal recommendation would be to give it a try if you feel it's too tricky stick to cash tables. If you don't have discipline stay away from Zoom.
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by lkdr9494This is my blog thread with some graphs:
      Swimming out of Venezuelan Hell
      I assume this doesn't violate any forum terms if it does I apologize.
      Hi, lkdr9494.
      Mentioning your blog violates no rules.
      In fact I suggest putting the link in your signature.

      As for zoom, I notice that players on zoom are tighter than I would expect.
      A few are more aggressive than you would expect.

      The trick is sorting them out.

      Since you can't win by out-nitting a nit, you need pick a middle road.

      I suggest starting by stealing wider.
      This seems to work up to about NL 10 (at least for me).

      Best of luck,
      --VS
    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
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      I have about 10bb/100 at NL25 zoom, hopefully will have half of that higher :)
    • MMPokerNab
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      i'm so jelly.
      i have 10bb*/100h on nl10 zoom... but am donating money to nl25 pool.

      i'll take that money back! .. xD at some point

      * this month :D (26k hands)
    • TheMarxBros3
      TheMarxBros3
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      I don't play that often due to work commitments but I am a small winning Zoom Omaha player at PL bring in $25
    • tukioppilas62
      tukioppilas62
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      Winning at nl25 losing at nl50. Over 100k sample from both.
    • TheLandlordUK
      TheLandlordUK
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      Thanks for the input guys.


      All in pre flop?

      What do you find villains are showing up with? And what stake is that at?

      I'm asking as I rarely get AI PF, as villains are so tight. Usually I only manage to get AI when they show up with Aces.
    • DecMate
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      Hey Landlord.
      I'm playing NL10 Zoom fullring, i have around 130k hands and im break-even - __ - (slight winner from rakeback)

      I have a coach and im working on my game, so hopefully the next 50k+ hands i'll be able to show some dolla'z!

      As to getting AI preflop,
      It does really depend on who you're opponent is. If you raise UTG then i'm only going broke with aces unless it's some manic or short stack.
      If they have a 3bet of >3% or under then only AA.

      What limit are you playing right now?
    • TheLandlordUK
      TheLandlordUK
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      Originally posted by DecMate
      Hey Landlord.
      I'm playing NL10 Zoom fullring, i have around 130k hands and im break-even - __ - (slight winner from rakeback)

      I have a coach and im working on my game, so hopefully the next 50k+ hands i'll be able to show some dolla'z!

      As to getting AI preflop,
      It does really depend on who you're opponent is. If you raise UTG then i'm only going broke with aces unless it's some manic or short stack.
      If they have a 3bet of >3% or under then only AA.

      What limit are you playing right now?
      I just call AA and KK, but stopped QQ as villains at zoom seem to just shove super tight. I would shove lighter if I had enough history on a maniac, but history is scarce on zoom, v rec players.

      I have dropped down to nl10 and trying to really suss out zoom, sometimes just playing one table. It plays very different to regular tables. I have sharkscoped some regs who were 4 tabling, and haven't really found a winning player.

      Who's your coach?
    • pokerprons
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      No money in zoom everyone is solid.

      Hand from today:

      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      BTN: $82.54 (82.5 bb)
      SB: $221.02 (221 bb)
      BB: $127.90 (127.9 bb)
      UTG: $55.29 (55.3 bb)
      Hero (MP): $201.70 (201.7 bb)
      CO: $100 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with J:spade: J:heart:
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $9, BB calls $3

      Flop: ($18.50) 2:spade: 6:spade: T:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $13, Hero calls $13

      Turn: ($44.50) 9:club: (2 players)
      BB bets $32, Hero raises to $179.70 and is all-in, BB calls $73.90 and is all-in

      River: ($256.30) 4:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $256.30 pot ($2.80 rake)
      Final Board: 2:spade: 6:spade: T:club: 9:club: 4:club:
      BB showed 3:heart: 6:diamond: and lost (-$127.90 net)
      Hero showed J:spade: J:heart: and won $253.50 ($125.60 net)
    • jawoftheox
      jawoftheox
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      Yea NL100 is pretty fishy comparing to NL10
    • TheLandlordUK
      TheLandlordUK
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      Originally posted by jawoftheox
      Yea NL100 is pretty fishy comparing to NL10
      I agree. I have watched vids of nl100 and it seems more "normal", than the "min donk every street with a monster", never go AI PF, you see at nl10.
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