BB Overall strategy

    • PacnyTuH0
      PacnyTuH0
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.05.2007 Posts: 48
      Hi,

      It seems that I keep losing quite a lot from the BB for over 500K hands. I play full ring Zoom at 25NL and 50NL. I am currently losing at -60bb/100 which is far from satisfying and I can't seem to find the right formula to improve my BB play.

      Some stats:
      (vs CO and BTN) -54bb/100
      Fold to Steal: 79%
      3bet vs Steal: 8%

      When Cold calling vs steal my winrate is +38bb/100
      When 3betting all but 88+/KQ+ it is +3bb/100

      (vs SB) -77bb/100
      Fold to Steal: 44%
      3bet vs Steal: 11%

      When Cold calling vs SB my winrate is -78/100
      When 3betting all but 88+/KQ+ it is -85/100


      It is obvious that I am doing way too many things wrong here. I just don't know where to start from in improving my BB play. Lately I have been trying to defend more by Cold calling (as my coach suggested) but my winrate stays the same.

      I would really appreciate any advice on what to do
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    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
      Super Moderator
      Super Moderator
      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 8,903
      Originally posted by PacnyTuH0
      Hi,

      It seems that I keep losing quite a lot from the BB for over 500K hands. I play full ring Zoom at 25NL and 50NL. I am currently losing at -60bb/100 which is far from satisfying and I can't seem to find the right formula to improve my BB play.

      Some stats:
      (vs CO and BTN) -54bb/100
      Fold to Steal: 79%
      3bet vs Steal: 8%

      When Cold calling vs steal my winrate is +38bb/100
      When 3betting all but 88+/KQ+ it is +3bb/100

      (vs SB) -77bb/100
      Fold to Steal: 44%
      3bet vs Steal: 11%

      When Cold calling vs SB my winrate is -78/100
      When 3betting all but 88+/KQ+ it is -85/100


      It is obvious that I am doing way too many things wrong here. I just don't know where to start from in improving my BB play. Lately I have been trying to defend more by Cold calling (as my coach suggested) but my winrate stays the same.

      I would really appreciate any advice on what to do
      Although those stats LOOK terrible, if you did nothing at all, you would lose 100BB/100 -- right? (disregarding walks) So you are winning more than you're losing in BB.

      If you fold BB to any steal attempt 79% that may be a bit too much.
      It also depends on what the thieves open with.

      Consider it from the other way:
      If BTN is facing blinds that each fold 81%, that means that 66% of the time they both fold.

      If BTN opens 3x and folds to resteal 100% then
      in 100 hands:
      66 wins 1.5 BB = 1
      33 loses 3 = 99

      So break even when folding to every resteal.
      Since you are folding BB close to 80%, you give BU automatic profit by folding that much. And that is just for BTN -- SB and CO are after your blinds too.

      Edit: I just re-read your OP, and it appears that you defend vs SB much more than against BTN and CO

      I think I did the math right.

      Now you just need to pick the ranges you want to defend with.

      Cheers,
      --VS
    • Saren113
      Saren113
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.03.2009 Posts: 2,867
      Oh damn 0.60 is alot :O You're probably playing to faceup in the blinds, and not defending enough vs btn opens etc and sb steals.