[NL2-NL10] shove flop?

    • vladnz
      vladnz
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      Joined: 17.01.2007 Posts: 1,355
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      HAND #1
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      Party Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
      Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

      UTG+2: $6.23 (62.3 bb)
      MP1: $7.63 (76.3 bb)
      MP2: $12.25 (122.5 bb)
      MP3: $13.19 (131.9 bb)
      CO: $1.85 (18.5 bb)
      BTN: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $2.14 (21.4 bb)
      BB: $2.11 (21.1 bb)

      Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A:club: Q:diamond:
      UTG+2 calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.10) T:diamond: 5:spade: T:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, UTG+2 calls $0.60

      Turn: ($2.30) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.04 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $0.54

      River: ($4.38) 4:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results (listed below in white, highlight to see): $4.38 pot ($0.21 rake)
      UTG+2 showed Kh 9d (a pair of Tens) and lost (-$2.14 net)
      Hero showed Ac Qd (a pair of Tens) and won $4.17 ($2.03 net)
  • 5 replies
    • Nunki
      Nunki
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 865
      If you were going to CRAI on the turn with no FE then you should have just shoved at some earlier point in the hand. Some FE is better than no FE.
    • kukkiwonBG
      kukkiwonBG
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      Joined: 27.07.2008 Posts: 4,494
      Shove pf is very weak.
      Bet more on the flop (even shove).
      As played:
      Fold the turn bet.

      Best regards,
      kukkiwon_BG
    • davidangel
      davidangel
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      I would say yes, push flop <-- before looking at results.
      After looking at the results I would say, play however you want but be sure to follow this chum around and extract as many tokens as you can before they learn how to fold thier garbage.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      why do you all want to shove??????? only push if the normal bet commits more than half of your stack

      his stack isnt that small

      flop is fine, turn cf, you didnt hit anything
    • davidangel
      davidangel
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      Originally posted by IngolPoker
      why do you all want to shove??????? only push if the normal bet commits more than half of your stack

      his stack isnt that small

      flop is fine, turn cf, you didnt hit anything
      I would shove flop because my standard c-bet on a FD board is full-pot. On a board like this we often both have nothing, I win, why go to SD? Even if he has a small pair I still have 7 outs for 2.5 hand odds and push flop = 2.67 pot odds. Plus, I like my FE on NL10, there are simply too many calling stations who will call a weak-flop bet, looking to improve thier 2 card draws (runner-runner) and end up sucking out a small pair. Save it for BSS. I'm all-in :D