Grinding mtt's from rock bottom to higher stakes

    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Hello!

      I think first I could introduce a little bit myself. I'm 22-years old student from Finland. My poker career has been a mess. I started at age 17 with my big brother's name. I had 1,2 dollars, and when I turned 18 it was 6000 dollars. It was pretty nice.

      After that I found a really good plo 6max coach. I started to playing omaha and soon I was playing plo200 and making shots to plo500. Unfortunately one sad day I sat to plo2k, lost there and then roulette and lost it all. Not so nice...

      So after this, I decided to start to play nl 6max. It went great, I played professionally 7 months nl100 6max before army. After army, I just lost my motivation to poker. Didn't play for like 1,5 years (was working then) and after that started my studies.

      My girlfriend didn't like poker so much at the time so I played very little. But last year's september I started playing mtts more. Mtts had always been my favorite game, had pretty decent results of them throughout my career. I started with 7 dollars abi, and in the end of year I was playing w 19d abi, and I had won 14k dollars in 4 months. No super big cashes, biggest win was 3,6k.

      I was very excited but then I had pretty bad life beat. My girlfriend said that this doesn't work, it's over. It was pretty sad for me because we had just moved together in december 2013. I took it pretty hard, didnt play poker for two months. Mostly partying and hitting women. Basic stuff.

      After that I decided to start playing 180man turbos. Really hoped for decent start because I was mentally in so weak condition there. Unfortunately I played like 800 (not good volume either) of those, my result was like -100d and my final table ev was +1,4k.

      That shouldn't be a problem, but for me it was. So again I changed my game to nl 6max zoom. I played it like 2 weeks tops, yesterday I started to think that what the hell I'm doing. Through my life I have changed the game where I'm good at that moment right away I take some kind of poker or life beat. WHY?


      So now I'm in this point. What is going to happen?

      I have 2k bankroll, I will split it to 5 different sites:
      - Winamax
      - Stars.fr
      - 888poker
      - FTP
      - Stars.eu

      I start with 6,7e and 7,3d abi, and my first mtt schedule looks like this:

      Winamax:

      17.30 10e 7k
      17.45 5e 2k
      18.15 5e 0,8k
      18.15 10e 1k
      18.30 10e 1,2k
      18.45 5e 1k
      19.15 5e 1,5k
      19.30 10e 2,5k
      20.00 5e 1,2k
      20.45 5e 7k


      Stars.fr
      17.30 5e 1k
      18.15 5e 0,5k
      18.30 10e 2,5k
      19.00 5e 1,5k
      20.00 5e 5k
      20.00 10e 1k
      21.00 10e 15k
      21.00 5e 10k
      21.30 3e 3k


      888poker
      17.30 4d 1,2k
      18.15 11d 1,2k
      18.15 5,5d 0,8k
      19.05 11d 1,5k
      19.30 4d 2,5k
      20.00 6d 0,6k
      20.50 7d 2,5k


      FTP:
      17.40 11d 1k
      18.20 6d 0,8k
      18.22 6d 0,8k
      19.20 11d 1,5k
      20.20 5,5d 4k
      21.00 5,5d 2k


      Stars.eu
      18.00 8,8d 25k

      Total buy-ins are 102,3d + 128euros. I will also play every good turbo that starts after 21.00 Finnish time.


      I will post results a lot to this blog because it's fun and easy for me to follow my results that way. Also I will post interesting hands, maybe some strategic thoughts that I have about mtts and maybe sometimes some stuff from my out of poker life.
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    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      Silver
      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 3,107
      Hi Vinny,

      Welcome to the blogs,

      Thanks for the nice detailed intro,

      You seem like a pretty experienced player,

      I look forward to read more from you about your MTT scores and strategy :)

      Best of luck sir,
      Fran
    • SiKWiThIt
      SiKWiThIt
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.06.2009 Posts: 85
      Best of luck Vinny i will be following your blog the whole way.

      I feel for you, Life Beats are extremely hard to overcome and i feel are probably the most influential factors in having a successful poker career.
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Thanks for comments and support! Yeah life beats affect me a lot. That is annoying and trying to work on that.

      So first mtt day today, played the list above and also some turbos at night. The most annoying tournament was 5e big @ stars.fr. 12 players left, huge flip JJ vs. AKs but right away A on the flop. But no problems, that is normal mtt variance.

      But the good parts, 4 final tables today: 6d early double I was fourth, 5,5d 0,8k at 888poker 4th again and 5e 500e guaranteed 9th place...

      But luckily I won 5e omaha turbo and 250e from that so nice ups today :f_thumbsup:


      I'm going to keep an easily readable list about my results:

      April:
      Mtt amount: 37
      Result dollar sites: +64,84d
      Result euro sites: +198,54e
    • Lazza61
      Lazza61
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      Joined: 23.03.2011 Posts: 9,245
      Awesome work Vinny :]

      Subbed

      Laz
    • Veini
      Veini
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      Joined: 11.10.2010 Posts: 638
      subbed! Eagerly reading your posts... Gl on the tables :)
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Thanks!

      Yesterday was soooooo annoying :D I was for some reason very tired (or not for some reason, I went to sleep at 5 A.M. and woke up at 8.30 A.M. so there is the reason). Had really big problems first to focus myself but then I did 50+50 push ups during couple of breaks and it helped a lot.

      Ran pretty bad but had a magical hour 23.00 to 0.00 and had big stacks in 8 tournaments. In the end 3 final tables, places 8, 9 and 9. So sick :D
      But still marginal profit is better than losing a lot so can't complain. Better luck next time :f_cool:

      I have started analyzing my every game day with hold em resources. I tag every hand where I'm not sure what to do. Also I ran quick analyze from every shove spot, do I fold too much or something. Really really small amount of mistakes, like biggest are something like 0,2 and they are a hand where I have folded 14bb w J9s and should have shoved. So small fixes to my push-fold game and it will be even better!

      The most important part is to develop my mtt program. I will remove some very very long and slow mtts from the schedule and add couple of turbos there. Today is rest day, going to wine tasting, get super drunk and enjoy life. And tomorrow is of course special day because it's sunday. But I guess monday is the first day when I try the new mtt schedule.

      April:
      Mtt amount:
      77
      Result dollar sites: +97,42d
      Result euro sites: +202,25e
    • Kapurs
      Kapurs
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 78
      Nice blog.

      From what i read imo you should take some time to work on:

      *Some more planned breaks for recover focus
      *Not open ship stacks like 14bb what u mentioned w j9s, while there huge majority of times is more +Ev line as r/f, limp/shove, limp/fold, limp/call/donk or c/r flop depending situation

      Turbo mtt will be easier but for me personally it not something what i am willing to accept. I constantly studying to improve post flop, deeper play pre ect. and feel confident about my game for deeper/longer mtt plays. I am unsure where you want be, be short stack specialist or improve to level where you are comfortable play any stack size any format.

      I defensively need work more on some mental parts of game and focus during 5-7+ hour mtt deep run but not going to let it get me down to play turbo/hyper only.
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Thanks Kapurs!

      You're right about the points. I have pretty bad planning about what to do during breaks. It is definitely a part that I need to work on.

      Also I definitely need to work my limp/shove and mini raise - fold tactics. They are pretty bad at the moment. I don't do any limping at this moment, mini raise-folding I have started to do more and more. It definitely has raised my winning rates and reduced variance.

      I don't want to play only turbo mtts, but I want to balance my mtt program so that there isn't one tournament that takes a lot more time than others. That is not optimal. I think I have 75% normal speed tournametns and 25% turbos. And I think it's pretty good mix.


      So today a big sunday. I grinded all my fpp on both poker starses and also changed all my points from ftp and winamax to tournament tickets. So a lot of "freerolling" today. Hopefully I can cash a lot and increase my bankroll. I will play a lot of mega fields today mixed with some smaller ones.

      So heres my program:

      FTP
      19.20 11d 1,5k
      19.22 22d 75k
      22.20 12d 1k
      22.20 12d 1k
      23.00 8,7d 2k
      buy-ins: 65,7d

      888poker
      19.05 11d 1,5k
      20.50 7d 2,5k
      21.00 12d 20k
      22.00 11d 2k
      buy-ins 41d

      winamax:
      19.45 5e 500e
      20.00 5e 1k
      20.15 10e 1,2k
      20.45 5e 10k
      21.00 10e 70k
      22.00 10e 1,5k
      23.00 20e 50k
      buy-ins 65e

      stars.fr
      19.00 10e 20k
      19.00 10e 50k
      20.00 5e 5k
      20.00 10e 1k
      20.15 3e rebuy 7,5k
      21.30 10e 25k
      22.15 10e 2k
      23.00 15e 10k
      23.30 5e 1k
      0.00 10e 50k
      0.30 8e 5k
      0.45 10e 500e
      buy-ins 112e

      stars.eu
      19.00 22d 100k
      19.30 11d 50k
      20.30 16,5d 50k
      20.30 11d storm
      20.45 11d sm satellite
      21.00 11d 120k
      buy-ins 82,5d


      All buy-ins together are 189,2d + 177euros. And after I reduce my bonus moneys the buy-ins are: 84,7d + 137e. I will play couple of classico satellites before the set so can reduce the euro amount still a little. Hopefully I ship sunday storm tonight ;)
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Played pretty good yesterday. Couple of final table bubbles unfortunately but no worries. Lost 60euros, so not a big deal.

      Now I'm thinking about this weekend Easter. I have two options: Option 1: Go to cottage with my parents and just do fishing the whole weekend. I love fishing but not sure if there are still ice.
      And option 2: Play as much mtts as I can. And get that moneyyyyzzz.

      I'm quite sure I will do option number 2.

      But today I have to do some school work and maybe relax and play the newest zelda on 3ds :)
    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      Silver
      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 3,107
      Hi VV,

      Keep on playing and some binks have to come :)

      Also, tbh I would choose option 1, Easter is time for family to be together, this way you'll feel better and play better afterwards :)

      glgl,
      Fran
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Thanks Frankie! I really hope so :)
      And I guess you're right about Easter. I think I'll do some kind of mix. Grind thursday and friday, go to cottage on saturday and come back on sunday to grind :)

      I've been reading a lot about productivity, goal setting and time management. Kapurs' blog has inspired me to do this. I have a very bad habit just to waste time. For example yesterday I could have gone to sleep at 10 o clock, instead I chatted on facebook and skype and watched stupid youtube videos till 2 o clock.

      Luckily this day has been better. Woke up at 7 o clock, started do school work and did those till 14.00. Great 7 hours there. I have coaching today with a coach from 16.30-18.30, and after that 19 till 0.00 I reg all good games. So long night coming, have to take a nap now. 40minutes is great for me, it takes like 10minutes to fall asleep and then you sleep 30minutes, you feel refreshed and don't feel sleepy anymore :)
    • Kapurs
      Kapurs
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      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 78
      GL man, i would recommend you consider buy

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    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Thanks for the tip Kapurs. Will read that with more focus tomorrow :)

      I have had pretty laughable end game run all these days. If I reach final table, I'm always out in the first 2 players, and I have a bunch of final two table runs. It gets pretty annoying, but I think just more volume and it will be better...

      April:
      Mtt amount: 179
      Result dollar sites: +0,96d
      Result euro sites: +160,905e


      but the good parts, my game has improved a lot. I fixed couple of things, focus more on 3betting and min raising and it has raised my ev bb/100 a lot. Now I have 19,5 ev bb/100 overall :)



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    • Veini
      Veini
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      Joined: 11.10.2010 Posts: 638
      Those were pretty unlucky knockouts you had today... the big shippaments are just around the corner ;)
    • Kapurs
      Kapurs
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 78
      BB/100 is pretty useless in mtt without big sample and filtered blind levels.
      I should recommend ignore them over small samples, it probably give you pretty random clues about where your game is.
      BB at ft is so much more important then BB at tournament start.

      But it great you starting focus more on 3bet and probably find some spots where to 3bet what was not noticed earlier.
    • VinnyVedecci
      VinnyVedecci
      Basic
      Joined: 10.04.2014 Posts: 13
      Yeah I know Kapurs that filtered stack size ev bb/100s are much better but I need to get more volume for those :)

      And I think overall ev bb/100 isn't totally useless, it big difference if it is 5bb or 20bb so I'd like to check that out sometimes. The most important part anyways is to focus on end game and make good decisions there. And usually you have short stacks there :)

      Yeah thanks Veini. I really hope so!


      So I was thinking about going to bar tonight. For some reason it sounded like a good option. But but, I think I'll play poker tonight. I have a good feeling about my games and really feel that the big score is coming. So let's go go go and play big set tonight!