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SNG fifty50...Overall stats, PLS help

    • mytylynRNMD
      Joined: 04.01.2010 Posts: 16
      I just get to 38k hands at sng Fifty.
      still losing... :(
      and just discover that my vpip/pfr at 38k is... 14/11.....
      the Gap is too big (in my opinion, maybe 12/11, 13/11....)
      i don't now how work properly with hm2 so ...
      my 3bet 6.22, agg 2.14, agg% 34.9 (this i don't now how to compare them with hands, vpip, pfr...)
      but i find out that i'm losing alot in SB/BB:
      BB 4638 hands , -65.81 BB/100 ...... :( (
      SB 4642 hands , -24.7 BB/100 ...... :(
      EP 10.355 hands ...????? +17.64 bb/100 (10.000 EP vs 4600 BB...WOW)
      What is wrong here????????? still is +17 (don't now if is low or high)
      Mp 8493 +12.58 BB/100 ,
      CO 4645 +19.65
      BTN 4642 +24.51
      also in SB vpip 20.3, pfr 12.5, means i call too much
      BB 15.3 6.8
      Why i have so many hands from EP compare of the table?????
      is a good idea to lower my VPIP or i should get more aggressive, or what should i do better.....?
      or a game/stake were this data are profitable ???
  • 7 replies
    • kurrkabin
      Joined: 12.10.2010 Posts: 5,976
      Hi, mytylynRNMD!

      Let's begin with the blind stats. You are always gonna be loosing money from the blinds. Just because you post a blind and you can't make it up for the times you defend it. If you are a good player, I would say you need to be winning money from every position but the blinds.

      As for the gap-14/11, to me it looks normal, but I can't really say, because I don't play the fifty50s myself. Yes, sure it can be 14/13 or 14/11, but I don't think it makes such a huge difference.

      As from the blinds-yes, I think SB VPIP of 20 is too much. Also-not that from the SB you should be flatting less hands than from the BB, because:

      1-you get worse odds to do so
      2-you have another player(BB) to be concerned with

      Also-looking I was never a big fan of looking at raw numbers. I would suggest to watch some videos, post some hands in our hand evaluation forums, maybe do a HH review with a fellow friend or some sweet session.

      Good luck!
    • mytylynRNMD
      Joined: 04.01.2010 Posts: 16
      thanks kurrkabin
      just find out that you post BB/SB and fold will count to Vpip
      also find out that in 6 handed first to act is EP , not like i knew the in 7 hand you don't have a EP
      still can't explain high no of hands from EP
      i started with raw numbers because i didn't know were start
      the problem with PS forum is that i made my poker account long ago not throw Pokerstrategy , and even i have played a lot of hands , money/ rake , i'm still have Bronze status :(
      and all what i read and learn 30% read from my status about cbet, 3 bet, and usually just basics, cos i can read just ABC posts and a few videos..
      ANY HELP WITH THIS....????
      true that i didn't learn the starting hands chart well enough, or time for google it somewhere else...
      i know is not the right way and i'm losing value from what i could learn , but i don't know were to start and i play how much i can just to ...."broke even"....
      i tried to take contact with Bogdan for some coaching (today is his birstday:) )
      maybe on weekend hi'll have time to have a session and maybe after will post some thoughts any change in my game maybe evolution ...
    • mytylynRNMD
      Joined: 04.01.2010 Posts: 16
      also were i could put my stats hand how, cos i have in hm2 over 100k hands and maybe somebody is interesting to take a look , to discus , to help putting in order those stats, to lear from them .... :rolleyes: , coaching ,also other players at this limits, notes....anything
      mostly at FIFTY50 , 7$ and 15$ which i'm playing at the moment (like 3 months) mostly 3-5 tables once not the maniac way 30+

      Played olso 60, 100 but way over my game....also some bad games at micro cash.

      Had an up to over 1000$ , get broke at high limits , struggling under 100 with up and downs and up again in last weekend from 50 to 200$ but only 7$ buy in (not much a banckroll :( .....) but .....i'm here
    • kurrkabin
      Joined: 12.10.2010 Posts: 5,976
      Hi again!

      Was interesting to read your story, it's not put in a very organized manner, but it's ok with me. Hopefully I don't miss a question.

      You want to read and learn I assume-you started playing poker without being tracked on pokerstrategy. It's a disadvantage, but not the end of the world. You can buy a status. Here's a link:Click A very important thing to learn about poker is commitment and investment. You need to commit and invest. Invest in time, pokertools, pokervideos, evaluating hand. Commitment in a way of staying diligent, focused, cool-minded, not give up. I am saying all this, because investing 60$ to get silver status for 1 year will pay off for sure times more as long as ofc-you are willing to learn and improve. Just the value you get by posting hands and getting them evaluated by proffy handjudges has greater value than 60$. That's for you to decide ofc. Back in the days when I wasn't a moderator, I had your prob as well. Played untracked on pokerstars, so I bought myself a gold status. Came out double the price it is now.

      As for the other things-playing higher limits that what your bankroll can handle-big mistake. Mostly mental weakness imo. As you understand that you weren't stacked.

      Maybe and hopefully you will get somebody to give you a close look at your numbers and maybe a piece of advice when it comes to the fifty50s. I am not a specialist of those, so I can't really help you much with the "mechanics" of this format.

    • mytylynRNMD
      Joined: 04.01.2010 Posts: 16
      yes , i saw that i can buy status and that is my next step
      till know i put my money in losing at tables :(

      i know about the bankroll management still a happy :f_p: ...

      but i never had all my bankroll just the one from cashier, all the time could mach 30-40 buy at my game (true that not all the time , but ...)
      also read somewhere a bankroll of 100 buy in for fifty (maybe when i'll be a pro :f_p: )

      and now i'm going quite well (i think ...) , from 50 to 230 in 2 good sesions of 7-8 h each
      down to 160 over 3 days back to 280 playing mostly 3 tables all the time and from tonight it's weekend for me.... :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club:
      also hope to have first sesiom with Bogdan this weekend :f_cool:
    • BArGaInChem
      Joined: 26.06.2014 Posts: 21
      I also play fifty50 on Stars, but at the lowest limits since I just started playing poker again after a huge break. I developed a push/fold sheet using SNG Wizard for when blinds get to the point where people have 12BB or below. The sheet is based on estimated call ranges from average opponents, and I generally use it when in doubt about pushing or folding. This is obviously a huge part of the game, especially in turbos which I play. Have you read the articles on SNG on PokerStrategy?
    • NutzAreOk
      Joined: 28.01.2011 Posts: 7,409
      Here`s a couple things that I really recommend. :)

      1) It`s really important to filter your HUD stats separately depending how many players are left. Maybe it`s fine to play 14/11 when there is 8-10 players in the table but when the antes hit and there is 7 or 6 (or less in another SnG games) you have to open up your game. This also allows you to see how your opponents play at later part of the game. Otherwise you are going to do a huge mistakes. Example: Someone plays really nitty like 10/9 early stages at the game but the same could play like 22/20 in the bubble.

      2)I don`t know how SNG Wizard works with fifty50 SnG's but I recommend HoldemResources Calculator. This is very handy because you can use the quick analyze function after a session and see have you done any mistakes.