I need mental advice and pokertracker guide

    • Daggystyle
      Daggystyle
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      Hello, i have been playing poker for 3 weeks online. I depositet 130$ on Fulltilt and dove right into 10NL and made some lucky profit at first, but got down to 50$ before i decided to actually apply some strategy and not just playinby feel. I read eveything i could on NL hold'em on this site and started applying BBS on NL2. First week i made profits upto 70$ and some bad beats and bad play down to 50 again. So i started using pokertracker, but i think i relied to much on the stats or were misinterpreting them alot of the time.

      I played good the first day after getting pokertracker then completely tilted after loosing 4 buying going all in preflop being ahead. So i busted and need some major reveiw of how to interprep PKT stats.

      Decided to start fresh with 120 euro at poker770, up 30today on heads-up play.
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    • Harrier88
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      Welcome to the forums, Daggystyle!

      First of all, could you please elaborate on your bankroll management guidelines? This is a very important point, possibly even more important than your actual game. Having read the BBS articles, I hope you know by now that playing NL10 with $130 is not a wise move, for example.

      I wish I could point you to some articles about stats, but I don't think we have any available for basic members.
      To get an idea about what values are considered "normal" for certain stats, you could take a look at Pokertracker 4's LeakTracker, which shows the typical ranges for winning players at your limit and format. It also features some videos to explain these stats, but I assume you're already familiar with their meaning.
      One thing you need to be aware of is that you need a decent sample to properly interpret these stats. One article from our silver section recommends at least 100 hands for most basic preflop stats (except 3-bet etc.) and 500 hands for most stats about actions on the flop.

      Also, I don't really recommend playing heads-up when you're still pretty new to poker. It is a very opponent specific, variance-heavy format that usually requires a lot more experience than FR or SH games. Do they even offer any heads-up games that are suitable for your current bankroll?
    • Daggystyle
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      Thanks for the reply, i play NL10 before i read anything about poker at all. So i started playing NL2 with around 50$ left.

      I learn very quick tho and i'm doing very good in NL4 HU with a now 175euro bankroll. That's 30+ buyins so that should be fine.

      I'm going to try to get the most out of my bonus here at poker770, then move back to fulltilt and try to hammer the microstakes again.

      Would you recommend any good reads on playing fullring microstakes, i played with 4-6 tables on NL2 before i went on a tilt and got a steady profit despite some bad beats here and there. I went up to 8 tables and did pretty good a while then i got bad beat after bad beat and tilted on all tables. When my bankroll hit 20$ from tilting i tilted some more at the roulette and busted.

      I guess i need to learn how to control bad beats and i'm always open to absorbing more knowledge.

      Also would like a reveiw on this hand. I also have a hard time folding AK,AJ on draws. Should i be robotic about my pot odds to begin with?

      Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.22, PFR: 8.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.03, Hands: 351)
      MP+1: 124 BB (VPIP: 24.37, PFR: 6.72, 3Bet Preflop: 6.82, Hands: 122)
      Hero (CO): 100 BB
      BTN: 192 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
      SB: 137 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
      BB: 63 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 10)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
      UTG+1: 236 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 44)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: K:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 4 BB, fold

      Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade: 9:spade: 5:spade:
      BB bets 11.5 BB, Hero calls 11.5 BB

      Turn: (34.5 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
      BB bets 46.5 BB and is all-in, fold

      BB wins 33 BB
    • Daggystyle
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      Also my PKT stats are 17/7/3 i think. I'm on my laptop right now so i don't have the accurate stats here, but on my home computer i have all my hands from the last 2 weeks. Around 10k hands, and i think that 17/7-8/2-3 is what PKT on my home computer says my stats are.
    • Harrier88
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      Originally posted by Daggystyle
      I learn very quick tho and i'm doing very good in NL4 HU with a now 175euro bankroll. That's 30+ buyins so that should be fine.
      I guess that's fine, but I think the recommended bankroll management for HU games is 50+ buy-ins due to their high variance. I'm actually surprised that you found decent traffic at NL4 heads-up.

      Originally posted by Daggystyle
      Would you recommend any good reads on playing fullring microstakes
      Do you mean books?
      In this case, I can once again recommend Jared Tendler's The Mental Game of Poker. In my opinion, this is the definitive book on poker psychology, it should help you immensely to combat your tilt problems.
      I haven't read any books on strategy, so I can't really comment on that. Why don't you have a look at our books section?

      Also, I'd strongly recommend that you stop using your poker funds for casino games like roulette. I used to do it myself when I was starting out and it was all just gambling to me, but as a serious poker player, you need to think about the EV of your actions, and every casino game always has a negative EV.

      About the hand you posted, I think it's best to fold on that flop. The flop is just about as draw-heavy as it gets, and since villain seems to be very loose, it is quite likely that he's holding some low cards that give him a strong draw, or even a completed flush or straight. If you do want to play it, you'd have to push right away, otherwise your pretty much committed after villain's pot-sized bet.

      We do have an open forum for hand discussions by the way. You might get better responses over there.

      Originally posted by Daggystyle
      Also my PKT stats are 17/7/3 i think.
      That seems fine for full ring, but I think your PFR could be higher. Heads-up, of course, is a different story.
    • Daggystyle
      Daggystyle
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      Thanks alot. Will read that book you recommended as my tilt problem seems to be my biggest challenge right now.