Adrenalin.

    • woodmo
      woodmo
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      Allright, My name is Mike, 25yo from sweden. I have just decided to make a little challange and see if its possible to beat "Adrenaline rush" on FTP. Im pretty sure it is if u are extremly good on 10bb preflop ranges but im not supergood at it. But im gonna give it a try, just for fun.

      Im planning to grind this for June and July, but if it will turn out horrible i will quit.

      Im going to start by playing 0.25/0.50 = $5 CAP. I expect huge variance so i deposited 1000$
      And due to the high variance i wont post that many graphs, maybe i can show u some graphs after each 5k hands or something.

      I have a mtt openshove chart i got from a friend i will construct my ranges from, with some adjustments. Chart looks like this :


      In Adren rush its only 4seats, thats why i removed the other ones :) Also in Adren there is no Ante, and that will probably mean that openjams etc should be a bit tighter. But anyway, lets try it out :)
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      Anyone here who is grinding this game?

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    • kevsaf
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      GL! I'm already your biggest follower!! :s_cool:
    • RakeVictim
      RakeVictim
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      Joined: 27.03.2014 Posts: 199
      Hi mate, I dont want to encourage you, but you dont have a chance. Adrenaline poker is already solved. It is proved that there is no way to beat the rake :(

      I'll make your job easier and save you some money be giving you the optimal open-shove ranges in each position, the correct call ranges for open-shoves, and correct overcall ranges.
      The strategy chart would ensure proper equilibria play.

      It's GTO for adrenaline

      Nash rangers:

      Open shove:
      CO ----->25.7%, 22+ A2s+ A7o+ A5o K8s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s
      BU ------> 33.0%, 22+ Ax+ K5s+ KTo+ Q8s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T7s+ 97s+ 86s+ 76s 65s
      SB ------->58.3%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q7o+ J3s+ J8o+ T4s+ T8o+ 95s+ 97o+ 84s+ 87o 74s+ 76o 64s+ 53s+ 43s

      Call ranges:
      CO Shove:
      BU 11.8%, 55+ A8s+ A9o+ KJs+
      SB 13.8%, 44+ A7s+ A9o+ KTs+ KQo
      BB 18.4%, 33+ A2s+ A7o+ KTs+ KJo+ QJs

      BU Shove
      SB 18.1%, 33+ A3s+ A7o+ KTs+ KJo+ QJs
      BB 24.3%, 22+ A2s+ A4o+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ QJo JTs

      Overcall ranges:
      SB vs CO&BTN ---->7.1%, 66+ AJs+ AQo+ KQs
      BB vs CO&BTN -----> 8.9%, 66+ ATs+ AJo+ KJs+ QJs
      BB vs CO&SB -------> 9.4%, 55+ ATs+ AJo+ KJs+ QJs
      BB vs BU&SB --------> 13.1%, 44+ A9s+ ATo+ KTs+ KQo QTs+ JTs T9s


      Optimal strategy vs 100% sb open

      BB reshove range 71.5%, 22+ Qx+ J2s+ J3o+ T2s+ T6o+ 94s+ 97o+ 84s+ 86o+ 74s+ 76o 64s+ 53s+ 43s

      Optimal callrange vs optimal BB reshove play

      SB call range 62.1%, 22+ Qx+ J2s+ J5o+ T4s+ T7o+ 95s+ 97o+ 86s+ 76s



      Check these threads:
      Here
      And here

      Wish you good luck tho!
    • holmeboy
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      With a w/r of -0.3bb/100 its surely profitable post RB no?
    • RakeVictim
      RakeVictim
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      Joined: 27.03.2014 Posts: 199
      Originally posted by holmeboy
      With a w/r of -0.3bb/100 its surely profitable post RB no?
      The rake is too high. Make it beatable at least for 0.5bb/100.
    • fusionpk
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      Yeah I also believe it's not possible to beat the game post rake.
    • woodmo
      woodmo
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      I hear what you guys are saying. Im still going to try it out for a while :)
      Mostly for the LuLz, so lets see where i end up. Maybe i'll find a way to beat the living shit out of this and prove you guys wrong :D
    • woodmo
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      Swingy game indeed. :D i'v been both under and over Ev, Dont think the EV line is that relevant on a smallish sampel, so will show that later on :) I will keep going with this and see where it takes me.
    • booomm
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      is rake beatable with that format? It must be fucking huge lol

      anyway, best of luck to you, will be following :D
    • woodmo
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      This is basicly how every session looks like :f_cry:
    • woodmo
      woodmo
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      Allright, for anyone interested in knowing. I gave up the Adrenaline rush thing, it just wasnt that fun tbh :) but i atleast managed to get something out of it :


      i pretty much only grinded my way up to top5 in the leaderboard and then i stopped adrenaline and started grinding regular rush and regular tables to diamond and got a +Edge lvl from the adrenaline rush top25.

      But i do actually think its still possible to be a winning player on adren, maybe not before when there was alot of regs grinding it etc. But there is alot of fish playing this form and they make alot of bad stuff. But yea, i think you need to have diamond edge or black card to make the grind worth it.

      Anyway, thats it for me :D hah.