[NL20-NL50] 56s on BB x unknown

    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      $0.1/$0.2 No Limit Holdem
      5 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG dizzadoo ($5.61)
      CO rovatn ($19.09)
      BTN BTmaster1 ($23.90)
      SB Freduce ($20.34)
      BB Hero ($20.00)

      Pre-flop: ($0.30, 5 players) Hero is BB
      1 fold, [color:#272BA6]rovatn raises to $0.80[/color], 2 folds, [color:#B93238]Hero calls $0.60[/color]

      Flop: ($1.70, 2 players)
      Hero checks, [color:#272BA6]rovatn bets $0.85[/color], [color:#B93238]Hero calls $0.85[/color]

      Turn: ($3.40, 2 players)
      Hero checks, [color:#272BA6]rovatn bets $1.70[/color], Hero folds

      Final Pot: $5.10

      is it ok to call preflop? and on the flop isnt it better to c/r to make PPs fold? my hand has some showdown value but any other bet will scare me, and 66-QQ still beat me.
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would fold, hard to play 56s profitable oop.
      On that board you should either c/r or c/f. Imo c/c is bad option unless you´re going to c/c also turn and then decide on the river.
    • Tosh5457
      Tosh5457
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would fold, hard to play 56s profitable oop.
      On that board you should either c/r or c/f. Imo c/c is bad option unless you´re going to c/c also turn and then decide on the river.
      why is c/c bad on this flop?
    • elwallo666
      elwallo666
      Black
      Joined: 28.09.2008 Posts: 2,289
      Because you gain no information.
      If he seconds barrel, you don't have a clue where you are at. If he doesnt, he may have 66-QQ, he is still ahead and can get value in river (cause u have to call).
      If he isnt ahead, he may bluff you out, or take a free card and bluff u out if a scare card hits.
      Thats why i think it isnt profitable to play 56s OOP to a pre flop raiser.

      Edit: Also consider that if you are behind, the 6 is no longer an out, as the board paired.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      your hand is weak on the flop, villain often has KX or pp, etc. and you have to play 2 more streets OOP with just a low pair.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by elwallo666
      Because you gain no information.
      If he seconds barrel, you don't have a clue where you are at. If he doesnt, he may have 66-QQ, he is still ahead and can get value in river (cause u have to call).
      If he isnt ahead, he may bluff you out, or take a free card and bluff u out if a scare card hits.
      Thats why i think it isnt profitable to play 56s OOP to a pre flop raiser.

      Edit: Also consider that if you are behind, the 6 is no longer an out, as the board paired.
      +1 Really nice reply to question (Y) Nothing more to add.