SB vs BB on Bubble

    • randombob
      randombob
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.05.2014 Posts: 174
      I've been loking into ICM a lot recently with SnG Wiz, ICM trainer & more

      I have spotted the general recommendation of when in the BB of calling a shove from SB with 22+ I just dont understand this because unless the SB has a two you're at best flipping and worst crushed by an overpair. They even say this advice when on the bubble

      eg
      Top 3 get paid
      100/200 25 ante
      CO folds 5000
      BU folds 3700
      SB shoves for 3500
      Hero BB 22 1100

      ICM trainer says call, seems crazy to me, against 2 random cards I'm 50.33%.
      It is not until BB has 77 that you are up to 66% and 2:1 favourite

      Do I make sense or have I missed something?
  • 2 replies
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
      Black
      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      Well in spot like that BB is clearly smallest stack. Meaning that his ICM tax is not that big. Now when facing shove BB has 875 to call for pot of 2250 versus SB. So cEV wise he needs ~39% Now there obviously is some ICM tax, but its not big enough to fold 22 versus wide range.
    • randombob
      randombob
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.05.2014 Posts: 174
      Arrrhhhh I see, that helps to explain.

      I've just been playing around with different SB vs BB chip stacks and I get it better now, cheers!!!